File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_1998/baudrillard.9803, message 81


Subject: Marx, Nietzsche, Baudrillard
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:16:18 -0700 (MST)
From: Gary Norris <garyn-AT-tatteredcover.com>


Soren, 

	All punning aside, thanks for the response.  As I have written before,
I find JB's critiques of society, hyperreality, on target.  But revolution, 
the idea, its ideological structure, must change in order to meet the 
problems simulation has provided us.  My romantic idealism will allow me 
to speculate--  I hope for the possibility of change yet embrace (almost 
sarcastically) the cynicism that comes with realizing that the people are 
so unaware of themselves, how can they ever become aware of the world.  
It was Debord who wrote (this one's from memory, so it may be slighlty 
off.  You'll get the point.):
	
	"Revolution does not show life to people, it makes them live."
  
	You mentioned Nietzsche, which is what I was about to do.  So, I'll go 
on with my quote:  
	
	"Philosophy has succeeded, not without struggle, in freeing itself 
from its obsession with the soul, only to find itself landed with 
something still more mysterious and captivating, the fact of man's 
bodiliness."

	We could really (hah hah) get into this one.
Ironically, there is another aphorism of N's which I always keep in mind 
while reading postmodern lit/phil/soc:
	
	"A joke is an epigram on the death of a feeling."

Dig it-- that one is a kicker!

gary norris


   

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