From: "Soren Pedersen" <speder-AT-post2.tele.dk>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:28:49 +0200
Subject: Re: simulation and the mask of klossowski.



> Has anyone else noticed the parallels between Baud's concept of 
> simulation and Klossowski's metaphors of masks?  Klossowski's concept 
> could be illustrated as such: there being no original, the model for the 
> copy is itself a copy, and the copy is the copy of a copy; there is no 
> hypocritical mask, for the face covered by the mask is itself a mask, 
> and any mask is thus the mask of a mask..
> Is this not pretty much the same concept of simulation that Baudrillard 
> is purporting?  (i.e. in light of the the concept of simulation it is 
> impossible to isolate the process of the real)

Have you read Deleuze's "The Logic of Sense"? In Chap. one, 
Deleuze delivers a splendid analysis of the whole original/copy 
problematics without lapsing into the typical (and tiring) 
postmodern discussion of representationism/perspectivism. He 
talks about the mask of the mask of the mask that has lost its 
original in a manner very consistent with Baud's definition of the 
simulacrum. He also quotes Klossowski towards the end.

- Soren