From: "JMDock" <jmdock-AT-alltel.net>
Subject: film and reality
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:41:52 -0400


Yes that would be his point, but history is all so remote and irrelevant for
most people that it doesn't even attain the status of a simulacra, it's fwak
,false wisdom and knowledge, to borrow a term from gaming.

Perhaps when a good hollywood movie comes out about  Kosovo starring Redford
as a reporter who discovers the truth (and Sharon Stone as his local love
interest) that the situation has probably been made worse for all concerned
by the bombings, and he tries to smuggle it to the mainstream media , only
to be thwarted in the end by some media mogul that he trusted too much.

But even the immediate exerience of the movie , the only reality, stops once
we leave the theartre or turn off the VCR.....
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob <suannschafer-AT-earthlink.net>
To: baudrillard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
<baudrillard-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: The Matrix and film


>>Schindler's list was so utterly bad, it was amazing that people
>>"discovered" the holocaust was a bad thing because of it.  It's as if
>>history is simulacra and movies the only reality people have.
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>Well, history IS simulacra and film -- the immediate experience -- the only
>reality, no?
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>Can that be construed as JB's point?
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