File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_1999/baudrillard.9904, message 49


From: kellner-AT-ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:29:44 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: The code, JB, Best and Kellner


Re Erik's commentary below:
It seems to me to be uninformed and lazy to not discern the differences
between the concept of code in various texts at specific stages of JB's
work, as well as the differences, or similarities if they may be, with
Eco.
So my challenge (defi) to Erik: what are similarities in "code" between JB
and Eco?
Cheers, DK

On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Erik Hoogcarspel wrote:

> Hallo Joshua
>
> Op maandag, 26-apr-99 schreef Joshua Crozier:
>
>
> JC| Hi.  Me again with a question.  Someone please let me know if I become
> JC| bothersome.  Just trying to get the most out of my reading.
>
> JC| Before I started into JB (my gf, a phil. of art type demands I use 'JB'
> JC| rather than 'Baud') I read a Best & Kellners Postmodernism text.  IIRC,
> JC| they chastised JB for never really explaining what the "code" is and
> JC| how it works.
>
> JC| I've just finished the System of Objects section which describes the
> JC| code and I find it fairly obvious what the code is and how it would
> JC| work.  I certainly could not give a logical equation for the precise
> JC| relationship between objects and subjects, however, I'm not sure this
> JC| is required. 
>
> JC| What is it exactly that Best & Keller want from JB?  Have I been overly
> JC| sympathetic in my reading and/or missed something?  Or are they just
> JC| picky to a fault?
>
> I forgot what exactly their problem was, but I was also not impressed. Eco
> writes about code in 'A theory of semiotics' in a way not inconsistent wiht JB.
> Also in 'Pour une critique de l'économie du signe' pp. 157 a.f. JB explains what
> he means with code. Maybe they were just laizy.
>
> regards
> --
> erik
>
>
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