From: Bill9191-AT-aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:00:24 EST Subject: Re: Becoming Virtual or Collective Intelligence? Thanks for the tips on Pierre Levy. I just increased the value of amazon.com stock by buying both online and perhaps has show that signs swirling in cyberspace now control captial economy. By the way, what are the major issues and conflicts now shaping up around virtual reality? For sometime, the issue of telepresence was hot. That is, that my identity and sense didn't stop at the keyboard or screen and so I could be considered *present* via cyber-connections. I realize the pomo approach is to undermine the game of absense/presence, but how is this playing out politically? That is, presence is still a hot politicial issue, regardless of its philosophical status as an illusion. Another hot issue, what about the Baud - (jez, what is the short version of his name?) notion of media ruining our cultural immune system. Has that argument been furthered or picked up by anyone? Some say that cyber culture is still a little body phobic. That is, everyone wants to abandon the body and become virtual. The terms used are ugly, like flesh meets, meat, biomass, etc, etc. Harroway was beginning to develop some notions around this as a positive cooperation between the bio-body and the cyber-body. Anyone else have some create interface theories and notions? what are the other hot issues these days about cyberspace and the upcoming world of simulation? -bill9191
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