Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:18:35 -0500 From: thaddeus murawski <tmuraws1-AT-nycap.rr.com> Subject: Virtualization/Subjective/Subjectivation Bill I should have made myself clearer-shorthand jargon gets in the way. what I meant by referring to Foucault and subjectivation is not the subjective as: inner space of choice, personal preference, autonomous preference—but what Foucault refers to by subjectivation as the process by which and through which we are formed as subjects. It is in reference to this formation process that I was referring to Baudrillard's notions in Simulations—That the death of the real has made the process of making us subjects a process that is even less grounded than before (although the process never had objective grounds the death of the real and the embrace of the virtual makes this process even less grounded than before.) This makes identity (the site of the subjective) more fluid, easier to throw off, easier to change—in fact identity merely becomes a virtual identity and we loss touch with what the notion of identity used to mean (as a site, even if imagined) of our subjectivity. So in a sense you are right that plugging into the virtual is making us less subjective; more subject to power to constitute us (the process of subjectivation in Foucault). I think we are really saying much the same yet the dense theory jargon often does more to confuse communication than to encourage it. It is almost as if derrida has invented these terms just to further prove his point about differance. Ted
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