File spoon-archives/baudrillard.archive/baudrillard_2001/baudrillard.0109, message 22

Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:07:55 +0400

This crap isn't worth responding to.  What the hell, we all need some comic
relief these days!  It never ceases to amaze me though how mind-managed
dimwits in times of crisis run to take refuge in official mythologies and
state discourses which they reproduce verbatim. BUT, he could have done
worse:  a step back into the the version of "history" he's peddling, and we
would have found ourselves smack in Biblical times, where, as we all know,
truth would have shone brightly. Of course. :)   

Question: why on earth does someone who speaks such an anachronistic
language and who has blinkers on have the faintest interest in Baudrillard,
eh Jean? LOL  

Salwa Ghaly  

-----Original Message-----
From: Shai Ophir
Sent: 9/17/01 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Hello

Dear Jean, all,
[pls forward to 'baud' list, my server doesn't let me do this]
I think the terror attack will show the world how terror is dangerous
painful in general. Last year we suffered a lot from the terror in
It is not that I am saying it is good that the US atack took place of
course. But the world must understand the Jihad and Islamic atttitude to
solving problems.
Of course people might say "but in Israel you are the conquor, and the
Palestinians are the weak and humiliated side". But this is not correct.
palestinian propaganda uses the ignorance of most people in the history
other nations. Israel state was established after the UN approved the
state. If the palestinians accepted the UN plane in 1947 for divided
palestine into 2 pieces there was no war in 48. The palestinians started
war in 48. The arab nations never accepted Israel as a legitimate state
the middle east. I believe the Jewish people have the right to build a
of their own in Israel, since they coul;d not rest peacefully in any
place in the world. because of the Holocaust. They didn't mind to share
with the Palestinians, but the P refused. The occupation in 1967 was
also a
result of the hostility of all Arab nations against Israel. It was
mistake to hold this occupied land, I agree, but Israel is the one that
always wanted to reach a peace agreement, even in the proce of giving up
parts of the land. Put it turns to be that the Palestinians want to come
back to exactly the places they were living before 48. How that can be?
have no right for this now.
Hope I made the picture a bit clearer to some of you at least.

----- Original Message -----
To: "baud" <>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:36 AM
Subject: Hello

> Hello, everyone.  It seems that this list is somewhat quiet.  Well,
> perhaps some conversation needs to be started...what does everyone
> think about the events of sept. 11?
> --
> JEAN BAUDRILLARD, on 09/16/2001


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