From: Tobin Nellhaus <nellhaus-AT-biddeford.com> Subject: RE: existence claims Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:43:57 -0400 Andy wrote: > Consider the child of a worker. What was the child's intentional action > that put that child in her/his objective structural position vis-a-vis > the productive means? I think there are a couple different issues here. It's not necessarily a person's own intentions that put her/him into a particular structural position in society. That's one reason it's "objective" or intransitive: what other people are doing and thinking (or, very importantly, have thought or done) is by far the majority of what creates social structures and positions. Few people "choose" to be unemployed, after all. And a child's position vis-a-vis the means of production is like an unemployed person's, i.e. separated and dependent on others. The child's primary social position, in any case, is a child--a category or "social class" (if you will) that has differed across history and cultures, so I"m not talking about a "natural social position." (Relationships to the means of production are not the only type of social position, of course; I hope this is criterion is merely an example, not the bottom line!) The question sounds a lot like "What makes a working-class kid part of the working class?", which is a terrifically complex problem, because outside of strict marxist terminology, for most people "class" is shaped by a huge number of forces, including upbringing, attitude, religion, education, style, etc. --- Tobin Nellhaus nellhaus-AT-biddeford.com "Faith requires us to be materialists without flinching": C.S. Peirce
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