Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 23:00:30 To: bhaskar-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU Subject: BHA: Science and witchcraft I have re-read Colm Allan's recent posts and would like to offer a general criticism. First I try to sum up Colm's position in 1. - 5. below, then say what I think is wrong in 6. 1. You find transcendental realism (TR) with its stratified and differentiated ontology convincing and see how it can be used "to demonstrate how competing accounts of science (positivist, idealist, etc.) are unintelligible (or impossible) relative to the actual practice of experimental science." 2. However, you are concerned about "the justification for: 1) RB dismissing these competing accounts of science as ‘ideological', and; 2) his extension of his TR model of science to cover the social world." Your "reasons for being unconvinced are epistemological rather than ontological." Sustaining 1) and 2) "presupposes an epistemological framework which is capable of demonstrating that the ‘intelligible' practice from which he derives his ontology (ie. experiment) really is ‘scientific'." Put differently, the competing accounts are shown by TR to be unintelligible relative to the practice of experimental, but it remains to shown that such practice is superior to, say, witchcraft. 3. "Only on the basis of a clear epistemological delineation of scientific from unscientific practice could we come to generalise the ontology presupposed by the practice of ‘science' to the rest of society." So we have to justify the ontology presupposed by science and then to criticize the competing accounts. 4. "Unfortunately, at least within his articulation of TR, Bhaskar does not seem to furnish much by way of epistemic guidelines. In fact, quite disappointingly, he adopts a stance of epistemological relativism. This stance, I think, (despite the claim to uphold judgemental rationalism) can only but have a weakening effect on the normative force with which many of us would like to assert depth explanations - particularly of social phenomena - following the TR model (and supposedly extending into CR)." "For instance, how, given a stance of epistemic relativism, could we defend the structured ontology presupposed by the ‘intelligible' practice of experiment from competing ontologies presupposed by similarly ‘intelligible' practices such as witchcraft or astrology? ...the actual practice of witchcraft (ie. the consulting of sangoma's and the casting of bones etc.), would certainly presuppose a different (even if still, structured) ontology to that of experimental science." 5. "RB cannot defend his decision to subject experimentation to transcendental analysis, and derive an ontology from this intelligible practice, rather than, say, the equally intelligible practice of Witchcraft (whose proponents claim is successful) on the basis of this epistemic stance. Judgemental rationalism is of no use here ... because it offers no guidelines as how best to choose competing ontological accounts of the world." 6. The point is that experimental science and witchcraft are NOT equally successful. To think otherwise is to ignore a lot of science and philosophy of science. The difference in success does not rely on demonstrating a superior ontology in advance. Epistemic relativism says that concepts are human constructs, and there is no fixed, universal set of concepts with which to understand the world and formulate judgements. That is epistemic relativism. Now every theory presupposes some ontology. However we do not justify science by proving in advance that its ontology is superior to that of witchcraft, thereby justifying scientific practice over witchcraft. We must first demonstrate the superiority of science over witchcraft in a way that connects with our practical activities of predicting, curing, making tools, etc. That is judgemental rationality. We do NOT refute witchcraft by showing that its presupposed ontology is normatively inferior to that presupposed by the activity of experimental science. We cannot refute witchcraft by remaining in our armchairs trying to decide why one presupposed ontology is better than another. We need rather to gather information, intervene in the course of things, analyze, etc. Science is a practical activity. Now before you retort that witchcraft is also a practical activity, let me say that in a broad sense science and witchcraft are not necessarily disjunct in their explanatory natures. Witchcraft is just bad science, nevertheless it is (at least to an extent) science. It too offers a depth explanation for phenomena. We refute it, NOT by showing that its presupposed ontology is somehow inferior or unsophisticated, rather by showing that it is wanting in various explanatory respects. I doubt that you are skeptical of the ability to do this, else you would not have offered witchcraft as an example contrasting with experimental science. You yourself must have felt that science refutes witchcraft and did so a long while ago. I think you are putting too much weight on ontology in the explanatory order of things. It appears you are putting ontology at the base of a foundational hierarchy upon which our notions of scientificity rest. I do not think that is the proper way to understand CR. There are a lot of difficult issues here, so I hope I have not oversimplified things too much. Louis Irwin --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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