Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 04:49:02 -0400 (EDT) To: bhaskar-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu Subject: Re: BHA: Science, theology and witchcraft In a message dated 15/08/97 23:53:44 GMT, Ralph writes: << Salter's commentary on Bhaskar and Adorno was brilliant. If only we could get more juicy details. 1/. The textual details are: Bhaskar's "Dialectic: The Pulse of Freedom" 1993, p. 250 where RB objects - on supposedly dialectical grounds - to Adorno's criticism of attempts to either reduce objectivity to subjectivity or vice-versa. RB retorts that subjectivity must "in some sense" be seen as "grounded" or "overreached" by objectivity. Adorno's consistent position in his Negative Dialectics 1973 and "Subject/Object" and elsewhere is that reductionism is the main counter-tendency to dialectics, in that it represents an eradication of mediation who consequences are as undialectical as undialectical thinking can ever get. Examples of reductionism include vulgar materialism, exclusively theological explanations of natural events, positivism/empiricism and racism. For RB to object to Adorno's objection to reductionism - under the guide of being a better and more radical dialectician - is, of itself, to fall back into what amounts to a pre-dialectical position. 2/. Bhaskar's position does not appear to mediate between the equally one-sided claims of unmediated (reductionist?) versions of materialism and idealism in a manner which is as receptive to the half-truths of the latter as it is to those of the former. Adorno's line is that the priority of the object depends upon the subject recognising the truth that we can at least imagine the existence of an object without the continued presence of a subjectivity to be conscious of its presence, but we cannot even imagine a subjectivity which is not already "consciousness of an object". This priority, however, exists in and for the imagination; not in the dense social reality which we wake up to every morning. 3/. Here we need to recall Husserl's phenomenological influence upon Adorno, (Against Epistemology: A Metacritique. Studies in Husserl and the Phenomenological Antinomies, 1994 ) and then contrast it with that of Heidegger's influence upon Bhaskar in Plato Etc where Heidegger is described as one of the greatest 20th cent philosophers (1994 p.15,). RALPH: >>Ruth's project also sounds fascinating; I hope she will pursue it. I agree Ralph. Ruth's comparison could, perhaps, also draw upon the critique of the specifically political appeal that Heidegger's "existential" work had during the 1930s, (and again since the late 1970's) and question why the more rationalistic and scientific phenomenology of Husserl became eclipsed by Heidegger - for ideological reasons that owed little to either reason or science. These are Adorno's incisive questions in his "Jargon of Authenticity" as well as in the first part of "Negative Dialectics." Bhaskar is surely right to incorporate a specifically phenomenological dimension into dialectics, one that seeks out, respects and gives voice to those qualitative differences (potential as well as already-realised) that are repressed by subsumptive identity-thinking. Yet why should CR want to give priority to that specific version of phenomenology of Husserl's right-wing, famously unrepentently National Socialist student, whose overall work - as Adorno once famously put it - is fascistic to its very core, rather than the critical rationalism of Husserl himself? Surely, the neo-marxist critique of the Heideggerian influence produced by Gillian Rose "Dialectic of Nihilism" 1984 and (less impressively) Habermas, (Philosophical Discourse of Modernity ) needs to be at least addressed before we give Heidegger too much house room, lauditory acclamations etc. Michael Salter Law dept Lancaster Univ --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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