Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:51:42 -0400 To: bhaskar-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU From: Doug Porpora <porporad-AT-duvm.ocs.drexel.edu> Subject: Re: BHA: Re: Math and probability Hi Tobin, Hmm. Good question. As you put it, I think it is the relations that exist independent of us. We invent the mathematical objects, which we then (logically or empirically) discover have relational properties we didn't know they had. They have those properties whether we know it or not. If by maths you mean just the objects, then I would say it is the relations that are independent. But I think math is just the structural analysis of invented mathematical objects. I don't think the mind-independence of relations is limited to mathematics. I think the same thing applies to social life and to other ideas for similar reasons. doug doug porpora dept of psych and sociology drexel university phila pa 19104 USA porporad-AT-duvm.ocs.drexel.edu --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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