Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:50:01 To: bhaskar-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU From: Louis Irwin <lirwin1-AT-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: BHA: deconstruction vs immanent critique Concerning Howard's and Colin's interpretation of the metaphor, I did mean it differently. I was not viewing the house as an appearance which covered an interior, which deconstructionists putatively expose as empty. It strikes me that that interpretation is one with which a deconstructionist might be happy. A house is not simply its exterior, it includes its interior. My revised version of the metaphor captures better what I was driving at: a deconstructionist is like someone who tears down a house to prove it was not well built. This is even better expressed by Colin's: "one tears down the house to reveal a torn down house." Anyway, a metaphor is like a joke: if you have to explain it, it's not very good! I am baffled by Colin's comment that "the concept of a house is itself dreadfully essentialist": are anti-essentialists unaware of houses or think them non-existent? Howard's comment is well stated: "any science is about discovering the generative tendencies which account for appearances. Deconstructive techniques can be a useful way to unpeal appearances. On the still other hand, if you have another left, if there is nothing but appearances, then technique gets lost in a maze, feeds on itself, etc. In the end isn't it depth realism that gives bite to the method?" Louis Irwin At 09:33 AM 10/11/97 +0100, you wrote: >Like Howard I think Louis' metaphor of the tearing down of a house is a good one, but I'm not sure that it's the right one for deconstruction, at least in it's more extreme variants. > >If Howard has got Louis right and the metaphor is about tearing down a house to >show that the four walls surrounded nothing, then this does indeed imply a commitment to depth realism: there was an appearance of a house but once pulled down it is revealed to really be walls surrounding nothing. > >I tend to view deconstruction as its own rationale. That is to say, insofar as the Yale crowd of deconstructionists espouse ant-realism (all is appearance, or performativity, as Butler might say), then deconstruction does not _reveal_ anything but is the something. In this respect deconstruction is the point of deconstruction. Or, as Wittgenstein might say, the meaning is in the use. The metaphor then becomes that one tears down the house to reveal a torn down house. But of, course, none of these metaphors really work terribly well with deconstruction, because the concept of a house is itself dreadfully essentialist. > >Anyway, if all meaning is indeterminate, and any structure requires a supplement in order for the structure to be, then what's at the centre of deconstruction that gives it meaning? This, BTW is a political question. I guess my answer would be Rorty's freewheeling liberalism, an horrific thought. > >On the issue of Foucault's 'happy positivism'. Well there's the obvious quote, which I don't have at hand, where he claims that he is an empiricist (this always really gets up the noses of my Foucaultian friends who try to get off the hook by saying, 'oh, he's been ironic'. Arrgghhh, what an answer! There is also the issue of his nominalism, and phenomological ontology (a good reference point here is Kolakowski's account of positivism, which locates nominalism and phenomenalism as cornerstones of positivism). Also the whole attack on the poor old 'subject' (why does everyone hate this poor old wretched creature so much?) was done much better by the positivists, who, of course, tried to banish all traces of subjectivity from the "scientific enterprise". Then there is Foucault's claim, most brutally put, I think, in the intro or preface to the Birth of the Clinic, where he states that he is not for or against any particular form of medicine, but simply telling things the way they are. Facts divorced from values perhaps? > >Anyway criticism is the sincerest form of flattery and I personally can't be bothered to continue to flatter the more rampant forms of postism. I've got work to do. > >Thanks, > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Colin Wight >Department of International Politics >University of Wales, Aberystwyth >Tel: (01970) 621769 > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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