Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:20:08 -0700 (PDT) From: LH Engelskirchen <lhengels-AT-igc.apc.org> To: bhaskar-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu Subject: BHA: devitt and sterneley Wallace -- As a footnote to my reference to mainstream scientific realism's timidity regarding the unempirical, I did pick up the Devitt and Sterelny book you mentioned, LANGUAGE AND REALITY, for which many thanks. As Colin suggested, the critique of the various neo- Kantianisms we live with is very readable and very good. But what drove me to the book was the reference in one of your quotes from it on the causal theory of meaning. I haven't finished the book and won't for now, but I thought I'd pass along that I found the explanation of that tantalizing idea disappointing, and the reason I think is timidity regarding the unempirical. Devitt and Sterelny are fiercely realist but it seems they might also be empirically realist. Their critique of structuralism gave me pause for the same reason. Here are some quotes from chapter 4, "A Causal Theory of Reference: Names," pp55-56, that give me trouble: First, they limit causal explanation to what can be perceived: "The basic idea of the causal theory of grounding is as follows. The name is introduced ostensively at a formal or informal dubbing. This dubbing is in the presence of the object that will from then on be the bearer of the name. The event is perceived by the dubber and probably others. To perceive something is to be causally affected by it. As a result of this causal action, a witness to the dubbing, if of suitable linguistic sophistication, will gain an ability to use the name to designate the object. Any use of the name exercising that ability designates the object in virtue of the use's causal link to the object: ostension of the object prompted the thoughts which led to the use of the name. In short, those present at the dubbing acquire a semantic ability that is causally grounded. . . . So the picutre is this. At a dubbing, a name is introduced by grounding it in an object. There is a cuasal chain linking the ability gained at the dubbing to the object. In virtue of that link, the reference of the name is fixed as the object. Exercising the ability by using the name adds new links to the causal chain: it leads to others having abilities dependent on the original ability. Thus we can use 'Einstein' to designate Einstein because we are causally linked to him by a chain running through our linguistic community to someone present at his dubbing." I think if one pieced together Bhaskar's ideas regarding a "causal theory of meaning" (SCIENTIFIC REALISM AND HUMAN EMANCIPATION, has some particularly good passages), they would go a good deal further than this. Compare Collier's discussion of meaning as a mapping from one structure, linguistic, to another, the intransitive, in his introduction to Bhaskar's thought at page 5. Devit and Sterenley are not presenting a fido-fido theory, I realize that, but my guess is they are limited in their ability to deal with meaning by their restricted perceptual notion of causation. Many thanks again for the reference. The book is well worth attention. Howard Howard Engelskirchen Western State University "What is there just now you lack" Hakuin --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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