Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:43:54 -0500 Subject: BHA: Aristotle and all that One thing that Michael Sprinker wrote about this issue made me pause: "RB ought to have said, I think, that society, like any real phenomenon, must have an efficient cause, viz., there must be some agential action that brings it into being and sustains its existence. Now that action is clearly complex, its agents multiple, their reasons for acting in particular ways not necessarily all of a piece. To have capitalist society, both capitalists and workers are required, and they tend to perform different actions towards different ends (not all, or perhaps even very many, of them conscious). The effect of their collective actions is, among other things, to reproduce the social relations of production characteristic of capitalism. They are, therefore, the efficient cause of the existence of capitalist society." Michael usually writes very carefully, so I was struck by this: "The effect of their collective actions is ..." If he meant rather that "the collective effect of their actions is ..." then the statement would seem to be a straigtforward expression of methodological individualism, which I doubt was intended. I don't see what "collective actions" would be meant to construe the sentence the other way. The sentence ought to apply to a society in which there were no collective actions at all. Speaking of political forms and social relations, Michael says: "Those forms of political organization establish the conditions under which agents act, but without the agents' actions (the assembled citizens promulgating and enforcing laws in a democracy, for example), there will be no society as such. ... And if some decently large portion of the agents cease to act in ways that conform to the existing structure of social relations--say, the workers lay down their tools and occupy the factories--the particular form of society in question (capitalism) ceases (or may cease) to be." So both structure and agency are required, and that seems to go beyond methodological individualism, however that insight tends to undermine the ascription of the efficient cause of society. If society includes both structure and agency, then whatever 'makes' society should 'make' both. The acts of members of society reproduce a structure, but to ascribe the efficient cause of society to the effect of individual actions serves, in my opinion, to muddy the waters. Louis Irwin --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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