Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:53:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Hans Ehrbar <ehrbar-AT-keynes.econ.utah.edu> Subject: BHA: Misleading Marx translations (Please disregard the few lines I sent to the list earlier by mistake.) Yes, Charles, I would say that most of Marx's dialectics is ontological, not epistemological. Much of Marx's slow dialectical developments are not only a matter of learning or presentation, but they are only possible and necessary because the world itself is structured and stratified along these lines. There is a famous Grundrisse quote that one cannot directly go from labor to the banker, just as one cannot directly go from nature to the steam engine, there are links in between which one has to traverse first. This is not a matter of presentation but is very clearly a stratification of reality similar to Bhaskar's. Another confusing factor is Marx's use of the word "represent" or "express." Let's look at the following sentence in Section 3 of Chapter One in Capital, the first sentence in the Subsection called "The Changed Character of the Value Form". MECW 35, p. 76, Vintage edition p. 157, German MEW 23, p. 79: German: Die Waren stellen ihre Werte jetzt 1. einfach dar, weil in einer einzigen Ware und 2. einheitlich, weil in derselben Ware. Ihre Wertform ist einfach und gemeinschaftlich, daher allgemein. English: The commodities now express their values (1) in a simple form, because in a single commodity, and (2) in a unified form, because each commodity expresses its value in the same commodity. Their form of value is simple and common to all, hence general. Comment: Fowkes has ``The commodities now present their values *to us*, (1) ...'' The ``to us'' is not in the Moore/Aveling translation, and it is out of place. The expression or representation of value is a social necessity, and it has nothing to do with the readers of this book. In the core of the economy, i.e., at a systemic level, there is a bond between all labors in society because they all are the interchangeable applications of the same homogeneous finite mass of human labor power. But this intrinsic connection can only affect human activity when it enters the realm of human interactions. The interpersonal relations which induce the economic agents to take the intrinsic constraints of this limited pool of social labor power into considerations are called, by Marx, the forms, expressions, representations of value. Since the agents do not react to value itself but to these expressions of value, it is important that these expressions are faithful expressions of the intrinsic properties of value. This is what Section 3 of Chapter One is about. But this terminology is pervasive, and again it might create the impression Marx's argument is epistemological, while in reality it is ontological. Hans E. --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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