Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:24:40 +0100 Subject: Re: BHA: Misleading Marx translations Hi Hans This looks like a really important point. Hans Ehrbar <ehrbar-AT-keynes.econ.utah.edu> writes > >It is a bigger job than I thought to document the >introduction of the epistemic fallacy into Marx's text by >the translations. There is an abundance of examples, >but the difficulty lies in explaining this error in >such a way that it can be understood. > > >The first example is the second paragraph in Chapter 1 of >Capital. I will only discuss this one example here. I will >bring this paragraph first in German, then in my own >translation, and then I will try to argue why the >Moore-Aveling translation is wrong. > >German original: > >Die Ware ist zunaechst ein aeusserer Gegenstand, ein Ding, >das durch seine Eigenschaften menschliche Beduerfnisse >irgendeiner Art befriedigt. Die Natur dieser Beduerfnisse, >ob sie z.B. dem Magen oder der Phantasie entspringen, >aendert nichts an der Sache. Es handelt sich hier auch >nicht darum, wie die Sache das menschliche Beduerfnis >befriedigt, ob unmittelbar als Lebensmittel, d.h. als >Gegenstand des Genusses, oder auf einem Umweg, als >Produktionsmittel. > > >My translation: > >The first thing that must be said about the commodity is >that it is an exterior object, a thing, which by its >properties satisfies human wants of one sort or another. >The nature of such wants, whether they arise, for instance, >from the stomach or from imagination, makes no difference. >Nor does it matter here how the object satisfies these human >wants, whether directly as means of consumption, or >indirectly as means of production. > > >My comments: > >In the Moore/Aveling translation, this last sentence begins >with ``Neither are we here concerned to know how'' instead >of ``Nor does it matter here.'' This reference to ``our >concerns to know'' is out of place here. Here is an attempt >to explain why: > >Marx is about to show that commodities have certain social >powers. Although they are inanimate things they harness >human activity. Their usefulness for human life acts like a >lense which focuses the diffuse activities of those human >individuals who deal with them. The fact that everybody >treats them in the same manner leads to an inversion between >subject and object: the commodities are no longer the >objects of individual actions, but the actions of the >individuals handling the commodities become the effects of >the social power located in the commodity itself. This >process has been called ``real abstraction'' or >``emergence,'' and the enumeration of the factors on which >this emergent power depends and those one which it does not >depend is called a ``real definition.'' > >The fact that the commodity's ability to focus human >activity is the same whether the commodity satisfies the >needs of the stomach or the needs of human imagination, >whether it satisfies them directly as means of consumption >or indirectly as means of production, is relevant >information about the type of societies in which commodity >production can become generalized. This is a statement >about the real world, not a the announcement of what Marx >concerns himself here in this passage. In other words, Marx >meant it as an ontological statement, whereas the >translation converted it into an epistemological statement. >This transposition of ontological into epistemological facts >is called the ``epistemic fallacy.'' It is a form of >irrealism, since it shifts all the activity into the head >and does not see the activity in the world. Fowkes's >translation has it right this time, but similar errors >appears many times in both translations. > >If I find the time, I will work on other examples, but maybe >I should better spend my time on DPF again. > >Hans E. > > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- -- Mervyn Hartwig Editor, 'Alethia' Newsletter of the International Association for Critical Realism 13 Spenser Road Herne Hill London SE24 ONS United Kingdom Tel: 44 (0)171 737 2892 Email: mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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