Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:12:51 +0100 Subject: Re: BHA: test Hi hans, I hope the quip about Stalin is a joke. My enrobing myself as Popper certainly was; what a thought!). And whatever the current fashionscape I am apt to give Lenin more credit than he currently gets whatever the associations with uncle Joe. Anyway I don't have a jot of disagreement with your analysis of rain what I am less convinced of (well I'm actually playing devils advocate really) is why these processes you describe can be called dialectical. Now, an awful lot hangs on what one means by dialectical here, and I suppose if we mean simply any process which is constituted by both absence and presence then yes these are dialectical. All this does not imply that science >is impossible, on the contrary, if this coarseness and >indeterminacy were absent, then science would be impossible. and unnecessary. I guess I am >arguing that whenever there is emergence, dialectics is >involved. Is that your understanding too? Well this and more probably, but just to return to my original question how does this analysis of being help us resolve statements of logical contradication? Well, in a sense we can refer to the statements to the court of being and stick our hand out of the window (or in the case of that damn cat in a box open it and see). Normally we will get a fairly straightforward answer. Now, in the transition states it may well be the case that it is both raining and not raining (well not much anyway - a few spots maybe), but here we would not be better to rephrase our description in terms of "it's starting to rain", or perhaps "the rain is stopping" depending on context? Even if we have no way of yet knowing whether this "starting to" will be resolved into a "is raining" or an "is not raining" (Bhaskar's appeal to Berlin and descriptive evaulation?) i.e. through an analysis of being and a reformulation of our statements of it - that is an explicit recognition of the relationship of non-identity between ID and TD. Of course, this empirical method will only suffice for a very limited range of problems and we are going to have to search in terms of depth for more substantive answers. Anyway uncle Joe, I think we both agree that wherever the resolution of contradications resides it won't be a simple matter (whether in dialectical or analtyical reason). And for my own part I see no reason to set up dialectics as the master method, which is not to say that it may not be important. Sometimes I get the feeling, not from you BTW, that RB has a triumphalist view on Dialectics as some kind of master method, but this could be my (mis)reading of the situation. I'm just a little sceptical of all master methods. Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Colin Wight Department of International Politics University of Wales Aberystwyth telephone: +44 (0)1970-621769 fax : +44 (0)1970-622709 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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