From: maputto-AT-saunalahti.fi Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:45:21 +0200 (EET) Subject: BHA: Re: Realist and irralist issues in Psychotherapy Dear Jan, and all Yes, your project has also been my concern since 1993, but now my work projects has been moved to other areas. What kind of working position and basic politics do you have? For example, if you are working with higher educational and communicational organizations there would be real possibilities to initiate new procedural practices how to understand and deal with 1M and 2E dialectics of the organization so, that there emerges new processes for meeting organizational challenges in 3L and 4D modes. I think that someone of organizational consultants would be in good political position for doing that with some absented and leadership groups. Before reading Bhaskar at all in 1993 I did a organizational development book where I maintained and developed tools for workers to evaluate four different (transfactual and real) main dialectical (causal and other relations) processes going on in every organization at least in absences. They were leadership, administration or management, social psychological and psychological. I still think this formula or sosial ontology (at least in hospitals in vocational schools) has been a good and realist basis for developing realist eudaimonistic social world, and this social ontology in my book is not philosophically in contradiction with Bhaskar´s texts. But of course after Bhaskar I have been able to ground my arguments more accurately and deductibely. > Vastauksena viestiin Jan Straathof <janstr-AT-chan.nl>: > hi Martti, > > i too am mostly interested in the application of DCR > in the field of psychology, but my focus is more on > using DCR in the context of organizational learning > and development; currently i\\\'m trying to remodel > Bhaskar\\\'s four/fivefold dialectics (1M --> 5C) into > a working/action frame to initiate learning- and > innovation processes in and around organizations. > > yours, > Jan > > ps. i wrote a piece (in dutch ;-) on the idea of an > Eudaimonistic Organization, it\\\'s on my page at > http://home.wirehub.nl/chan/TEO/TEO.html > > > > Nice to have a look at your text, later on, but I quess there is a language problem of mine. Regards, Martti --------------------------------------------------------- Tämä viesti on lähetetty Saunalahden Serverin Webmailista osoitteesta: www.saunalahti.fi --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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