Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:49:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: BHA: Adorno on style Hiya everybody, I know I shouldn't do this, but... about Adorno... I'm not sure that we can have it both ways. Adorno's views on style and representation are internally related to a broader theoretical stance -- a stance that is at odds with Bhaskar's at the exactly relevant crucial points. Yes, Adorno goes on and on about the inherent impossibility of a certain kind of precision, clarity or transparency -- and the violence that is implied by the unselfconscious pursuit thereof. But this is because, for Adorno, thought itself is compromised, in a way that it is not for Bhaskar. [True, there is also the oppposition from Adorno to cognitive operations that are simply too easy. This objection is one of the elements of his critique of popular culture and of the culture industry as a whole -- Adorno doesn't like jazz, for example, for this reason. With respect to philosophy that has been written in an analytic, expository style, though, my response to this line of argument is that it applies - if it does - to the conceptual content of the work in question. Either the ideas to be communicated are themselves challenging in the way in which Adorno applauds, or they are not. Simply making it harder to figure out *what* they are is a matter of window dressing, it seems to me.] In any case, rightly or wrongly Adorno would shudder at a philosophy of science in which scientists are thought of as identifying (althethic) truths. He would also be opposed to the account of language and meaning encapsulated in the concept of referential detachment. And that's not to mention the whole notion of a transcendental realism -- which Adorno, I suspect, would chalk up to so much pre-Kantian metaphysics! Now I'm not saying that anyone in this debate over whether or not RB should write more clearly is right or wrong on any point simply because Adorno would or would not agree with them. Nor am I saying that Adorno and Bhaskar disagree about everything. I'm very interested in the similarities as well as in the differences between them. My point is only that Adorno's views on style *ARE*, for better or for worse, related to the content of his critique of idealism in all of its forms -- and it matters, I think, that this critique would extend to RB's critical realism. RB, conversely, does not, as I understand him, hold any views about thought, language and/or "objects" that preclude the pursuit of stylistic clarity. In fact just the opposite. Indeed, it is for this reason the request for clarity with respect to RB's work has always seemed to me to be an internal demand. [With Adorno, by contrast, one has to actually reject parts of the theory -- or at least object to Adorno's understanding of its implications -- in order to voice such a request.] By the way (while I'm at it), I came accross something interesting. In the Introduction to the *Prolegomena (To Any Future Metaphysics That Can Qualify as a Science)*, Kant says something about the reception of his own work that strikes me as relevant -- especially since his writing was pointed to as an example of stylistic difficulty being a requirement of conceptual difficulty. Kant says that (like Mervyn!) he was surprised to hear complaints of the "want of popularity, entertainment, and facility" of the *Critique* coming from philosophers -- that they, at least, should appreciate that "highly prized" ideas require following "the strictest rules of methodic precision," which may be at odds with a pleasing prose. "Yet," he continues, "as regards a certain obscurity, arising partly from the diffuseness of the plan, owing to which the principle points of investigation are easily lost sight of, the complaint is just, and I intend to remove it by the present Prolegomena." Which seems to me to be just the right thing to do! Warmly, Ruth --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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