Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:20:46 +0200 From: Bwanika <Daniel.BwanikaH961-AT-stud.oru.se> Subject: Re: BHA: individual-based models vs. TMSA Tobin Thanks for your explanation. It is also known that different atoms have different atomic weight and resonance i.e. vibrations. Therefore if I were to measure copper or an iron plate atomic structure, I will get different resonance at different wavelength. Therefore atoms in copper as opposed to those of iron resonate on the same wave length- therefore rational. It will be untrue of people le us say in view of the collapse of the stock exchange or watching a documentary on nature in Alps late in the evening. To assume particular people will respond to low prices exactly in the same way, as when one heats an iron bar can lead us to ask many questions. I do believe this were rational choice theory is facing great problems. It brings me back to the difficult of causation and reductionism in social science. It seems there is a tendency to assume, there is no particularity among persons. In Plato etc. pg., 78 Bhaskar writes that it is important to differentiate within the class of a) concrete singularities, conceived as compounds, conjunctures, condensates, outcomes or results b) the concrete singularity of the inividual human agent. The latter will have (i) a universal aspect, constituted by our shared species-being (which gives grounds for a core equality), (ii) particular mediations characterising her by age, gender, nationality , ethnicity , class etc. (iii) in various process of rhythmic formation, (iv) with idiograhic features uniquely individuating her. I have linked this argument to the social cube and derivation the nexus of antagonistic ideologies thereof. This is an interesting explanatory critic of dialectic causality since within present social models, particularly in regard to those arguing for symbolic interaction (I) and Social Psychology. Likewise in the economics of the organisation ( just imagine combination of input to reach optimal output) one will find that firms are organised differently. Therefore IBM computers are not the cheapest though sales might be slightly higher than DELL. The entire argument puts in question what is meant by democracy. thanks again. bwanika At 07:26 2000-03-26 -0500, you wrote: >Bwanika wrote: > >> What is the etymology of the word "person" and "individual" > >Person: from the Greek "persona," meaning mask, character, or role (in >classical times, as in a play; earlier, probably in religious rituals). > >Individual: not divided or divisible. The classical Latin translation for >the Greek "atomia," or atom. (Of course, now we know that atoms *are* >divisible, extensively so, but we're stuck with the word.) > >The question being...? There are difficulties in making philosophical >arguments through etymology (as indicated by the etymology of "etymology": >the "true" meaning is the original meaning), though it can be very >suggestive nevertheless. In any case, the two terms are clearly not >identical in meaning, and from at least one (and probably more) >perspectives, one might rationally argue that society consists of people but >not of individuals. I think (D)CR would go with some version of that >position. Regardless, the person = individual equation is not necessarily >obvious or true. > >--- >Tobin Nellhaus >nellhaus-AT-mail.com >"Faith requires us to be materialists without flinching": C.S. Peirce > > > > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > > __________________ Bwanika Uganda Home Pages Ltd. url: http://www.uganda.co.ug tel: +256 (0) 41 235 910 e-mail uhpl-AT-starcom.co.ug Bwanika-AT-nero.oru.se --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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