Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:27:53 +0000 From: Mervyn Hartwig <mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: BHA: comments on terminology Hi Tobin All I have on Bhaskar is what's in the DPF index under praxis, as quasi- propositional - pp.66-9, 246-7. I haven't looked in PE for this. I'm afraid I don't know what happened to Archer's talk, whether she published it or what. I agree re your criticism of Archer's analysis of culture. Please remind me where I can read your article, or better, send me a copy. Mervyn Tobin Nellhaus <nellhaus-AT-gis.net> writes >Hi Mervyn-- > >> Yes, this is perhaps partly what Bhaskar means when he says that >> practice is quasi-propositional. But only 'quasi', note. There is >> always a descriptive dimension for language users to knowing an apple >> through eating it, but of course it's by no means all that's going on. > >Yes, no argument here! > >> Insofar as it's not propositional, the practice doesn't differ in kind >> from the practice say of the caterpillars who also eat the apple very >> effectively. I think, and I think Bhaskar thinks, that there is an >> extra-discursive dimension to our knowledge. > >I think CR/DCR lends itself to this position, or at least it's open to this >view, which I consider an extremely important one. But I can't think of any >place where RB explicitly discusses it -- maybe you know of some cites? > >> This I think was also >> Margaret Archer's theme at the CCR Conference 2 (?) years ago; if I >> recall right, she tried to undermine discourse theory by demonstrating >> an extra-discursive, ontologically prior dimension to our coming to >> grips with the world in infancy. Primacy of practice! > >Boy, I sure hope so. One of my criticisms of her *Realist Social Theory* >and *Culture and Agency* is that her analysis of culture is way too >cognitivist. Who knows, maybe she's even read my article on semiotics. >(Yeah, dream on, T.) On the other hand, there are lots of definitions of >"discourse," and some of them accommodate the quasi-propositional, so I'd >need to see the details. > >Thanks. > >--- >Tobin Nellhaus >nellhaus-AT-mail.com >"Faith requires us to be materialists without flinching": C.S. Peirce > > > > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- -- Mervyn Hartwig --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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