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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:51:07 +0200
From: Bwanika <Daniel.BwanikaH961-AT-stud.oru.se>
Subject: RE: BHA: Radical Chains Indeed



Dear listers

What is being stated here below is exactly the same problem Sayer's Realism
and social science; 2000 is trying to expose and expand on albeit with a
social science touch. In fact the problem of 'science in general' are not
incomprehensible if the time space aspect of the social realm are not
considered. This is complex structure, which in this age will threaten
pseudo scientific works. I do believe this is partly a question of
fragmentation of the academia.

Sayers book is really good for non-geographers and /or intellectual
debate/refelction to grasp the issues mentioned here below for instance
that of theory , social and scientific progress and then entire.



At 10:35 2000-04-26 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Heikki re your comments I have some agreements and some disagreements. Since
>you present many of the issues as "possibilities" I would have thought that
>they apply to all of us and not simply Bhaskar. Points of major disagreement
>are:
>
>
>>the fallacy of ad
>>hominem (categorisation of theoreticians is
>>substituted for engagement with their arguments)
>
>This only becomes a fallacy if the categorisation of a theorist is not
based>on their arguments. I generally find with Bhaskar that somewhere in
the body
>of work is such an engagement.
>,
>	and the fallacy of ad populum (appeal to the
>	popular feelings within the critical realist
>	community)
>
>Since the CR community is a fairly disparate group, and, despite what those
>who have never read Bhaskar think, is often split on fundamentals, this can
>only be a very dangerous tactic. Moreover, and whilst remaining cognizant of
>Mervyns's warnings re the new book, my understanding of the basic thrust of
>its argument is that it certainly will not appeal to "popular feelings".
>



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