File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2000/bhaskar.0006, message 138


From: "Phil Walden" <phillwalden-AT-email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: BHA: various queries
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 14:23:34 +0100



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From: Carrol Cox <cbcox-AT-ilstu.edu>
To: bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Date: 08 June 2000 03:09
Subject: Re: BHA: various queries


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>Phil Walden wrote:
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>>  Hi Carrol,
>> >>
>> Thanks for the translation of Goethe.  However, I don't agree that in the
>> beginning was the deed.  In the beginning was the world and thought.
Then
>> came the deed.
>
>I find this utterly incomprehensible (except on theistic premises). Five
>billion years ago there was thought?????
>
>Who in the world thought the thought and what was the thought about?

I assume Goethe was talking about the dawn of humanity, not the beginning of
life.  Do you not believe in Kantian categories?
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>It seems an absolute either/or
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>In the beginning was the logos, and the logos was god, etc.
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>                        or
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>In the beginning was the deed.
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>Bacteria. Earthworms. Oysters. Starfish. All in some sense
>act. How could thought emerge except as a reflex on action?

You may be right about this.  But it has no relevance to humanity and its
problems or to the question of what kind of subject we need which Bhaskar
has raised and now answered in a peculiar way, seeming to abstract the
subject from social relations.
>
Phil
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