File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2000/bhaskar.0006, message 28


Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:22:07 +0200
From: Bwanika <Daniel.BwanikaH961-AT-stud.oru.se>
Subject: RE: BHA: various queries


Jan and Colin 

The debated has only just started.

A visiting professor who was giving an exciting lecture on what to be done
with children  (problem children!) who do not want school, shot children,
have low self esteem, lack desire to life etc. etc.  With the help
empirical studies has so far shown a beautiful correlation between these
particular children, their parent's status and the children's general
behaviour.  What was missing, were the generative mechanism to this
correlation, I said to myself.

And here the lecturer focused the weight of his point before he was shouted
down by a lady social worker in the audience

She said, 

"  what you are talking about has been proved by us (meaning social
workers). More children taken care of under that LAW come out worse than
when they go into it! "

The professor raised his head focus his glance in a questioning and
searching stare, onto the lady as the entire audience went into low murmur,
obstructing the conference before we were asked to take a short break.

I was more of an observer than a participant.  Truth, it struck me in my
thoughts as I reminded myself that there are no conclusions in that life
(science)! That's when one I realised a hiatus, a stark gap. A difference
between TD and ID. Man creates her ways referentially detached to her
being. States, laboratories do not create being hence lack of the
ontological status. 

This is a very interesting book - for creation in the sociology of religion
that is what is being godly or rather religious. So if man can't create her
own being she is referentially detachment from her own being- the self thus
Marx alienation - lack of ontological status in contemporary thinking.


At 01:40 2000-06-05 +0100, you wrote:
>i meant this in the autobiographical sense, personally i find
>it quite open and honest when he writes that he is "abused as
>a young child [and] suffers a miserable childhood" [EW:148];
>and on the other hand i feel this book contains a lot of his
>dreams, fantasies, diary snippets and so on.
>
>>>- and what about the theorem "Thus one changes society by
>>>first (and also) changing oneself."[EW:68] ?
>>
>>Don't mind this, as a necessary but insufficient condition.
>














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