Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:23:52 +0100 From: Jan Straathof <janstr-AT-chan.nl> Subject: Re: BHA: From RTS to FEW Hiy Ruth, you wrote: >I haven't read this new thing yet, but it sounds more like a kind of >absolute idealism than an irrealism. it's neither idealism nor irrealism Bhaskar would say, it's plain and simple "ontological realism about God (in the ID)", and as a way to get in touch with that God out there, Bhaskar proposes a path of "Twelve Steps to Heaven". [i.e. our TD work] >In any case, I'd focus (have focused) >on the concept of alethic truth, specifically, in this regard. I'm not at >all convinced that Bhaskar's earlier work requires this concept. "requires" no, but "implicit" yes; i mean, when RB introduces the notion of alethia (cf. DPF) he immediately provides for the necessary links with his previous writings (viz. RTS notions like: intransitive dimension, causal structures and generative mechanisms); see also later in PE pg.64: "d) truth as *ontological*, no longer tied to language-use as such and in this sense objective and in the intransitive dimension, typically achievable when referential detachment occurs; and a special case of which is d') truth as *alethic*, i.e. the truth of or reason for things, people and phenomena generally (including in science most importantly causal structures and generative mechanisms), not propositions." i always read [understood] this as: aha, so the *alethic* was always already implicit in your notion of ontological truth in the ID as in the Dr of RTS . . . ;-) >If this >latest stuff *IS* nascent in the concept of alethic truth, it doesn't follow >that it is implicit in everything the guy ever wrote. maybe it's my too personal reading of Bhaskar, but there is certainly a clear continuity and unfolding going on in his thought, especially on ontological matters. yours in dharma, Jan and here's one for you Ruth :-) "The proof of God's existence is experiental and practical. (And God, though enduring ingredient essence of, may be more or less (as well as differentially) experienced and/or realised by men." [EW:44] --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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