Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:50:04 +0100 From: Mervyn Hartwig <mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: BHA: Explanatory Power Hi Doug, Colin >the search for truth >does not require epistemological foundations. Instead, truth emerges from >open, ongoing argument about the object with criteria that emerge relevant >to that object. This is getting close to a formulation I can accept. I think I've been caught in cross-fire in the discussion to some extent, doubtless at least partly through my own fault. I haven't been wanting to espouse foundationalism or empiricism or algorithms, merely the explanatory power rule. (As Colin says, if you strip away the rhetoric...). I would locate the explanatory power rule, not within a Lakatosian problematic, but within the epistemological dialectic (or logic of scientific discovery) Roy adapts from Hegel (which has a Lakatosian moment among many - a Feyerabendian one too!): when the scientific community goes over to a new theory it does so on the basis of an assessment of greater explanatory power (the assessment being made, as you say, in a very complex and context-specific way; it would of course include addressing any 'conceptual problems'). I find it interesting that this dialectic hasn't figured in the present discussion. I wonder whether you were perhaps thinking of it, Doug, when you said we haven't fully realized all that CR gives us? Very briefly, Roy's account highlights for me two features often missing from the Colin/Doug position. (I've made both points before but don't think they've really been answered or taken on board.) 1. The 'criteria that emerge relevant to [the] object' do so of course as a result of *interaction* between the transitive processes of science and the intransitive objects - your formulations often make it seem as though the object determines the criteria in a somewhat one-way fashion ('it can determine the criteria for assessing truth claims about it'). Doubtless this is partly a matter of emphasis, but I do think it important not to *sound* as though you're committing the ontic fallacy or doing away with the 'relative autonomy' of the transitive dimension. 2. Your account often lacks a universal dimension - it stresses the particular, the difference (Colin especially) among the objects which we are to 'follow' for epistemological guidance. I think this needs to be explicitly complemented a) with the notions of a 'shared' ontology of causal powers and ontological depth - the latter is ultimately what gives bite to the explanatory power rule and explains why there seems to be 'a' logic of scientific discovery in some sense regardless of the object domain; and b) with the notion of a 'shared' epistemology in some sense - after all, if the various scientific communities are to accept your epistemological advice and 'follow the (differing) objects', there must be some common standards eg logical principles in terms of which they can recognise that that's what they're doing. (This is in effect Tobin's point to Doug, I think, and I see from Doug's reponse that he has conceded it; see also Doug's argument that science and theology are based on 'the same way of knowing' - it's the content that differs.) Mervyn --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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