File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2001/bhaskar.0106, message 40


Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:18:28 -0400
Subject: BHA: Re: Bhaskar, Marx and self-consciousness


I found the letter on the internet: 
<http://eserver.org/marx/1843-letters.to.arnold.ruge/1843.09-ruthless.critique.txt>.

Yoshie

>I've just been catching up with Bhaskar posts and come upon the
>following. Has anyone confirmed this? I looked up all the letters to
>Ruge in the Collected Works (Vols. 1-4) and I found nothing remotely
>like this rubbish. Could someone cite an actual source where Marx said
>this?
>
>Carrol
>
>Mervyn Hartwig wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>>  Somewhere Bhaskar approvingly cites Marx as follows (or part thereof -
>>  certainly the second sentence and I think also the last, although the
>>  citation of each might be in a different place):
>>
>>  'Our programme must be: the reform of consciousness not through dogmas
>>  but by analysing mystical consciousness obscure to itself, whether it
>>  appear in religious or political form. It will then become plain that
>>  the world has long since dreamed of something of which it needs only to
>>  become conscious for it to possess in reality.... What is needed above
>>  all is a *confession*, and nothing more than that. To obtain forgiveness
>>  for its sins mankind needs only to declare them for what they are.'
>>  (Marx to Ruge 1843).
>>
>>  Can anyone tell me please where Bhaskar cites this?
>>
>>  I've been re-reading the early Marx, and it's striking that many of the
>>  themes of *From East to West* are already there...
>>
>>  Mervyn
>>
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