From: "Erik Weissengruber" <epweissengruber-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: BHA: Stop the rush to war Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:41:40 -0400 <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P><BR><BR></P><BR> <DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: viren viven murthy <VVMURTHY-AT-MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu <DIV></DIV>>To: bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: BHA: Stop the rush to war <DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:21:02 -0500 (CDT) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Of course in some sense, "the murder of thousands of innocent people <DIV></DIV>>'justifies' the reaction we have seen so far." However, given that this <DIV></DIV>>is a list about critical realism, I think that it is important for us to <DIV></DIV>>reflect on the way in which the media's coverage of the event has been <DIV></DIV>>superficial, totally overlooking the structural problems that give rise to <DIV></DIV> <P>>terrorism. </P> <P>- thank you, this is what I was trying to hint at obliquely</P> <P> </P> <P>The various articles that Jan sent made this point well.( I </P> <DIV></DIV>>think I finally am beginning to understand Zizek.) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Anyway there is another sense in which we can easily say that the reaction <DIV></DIV>>has been disproportionate, that is when compared to the millions of <DIV></DIV>>murders committed by the U.S government. We rarely hear much about the <DIV></DIV>>people who die in Iraq, but the people who died in the Twin Towers are <DIV></DIV>>given names, faces and a narrative. While I am not against this, I <DIV></DIV>>believe <DIV></DIV>>that similar consideration should be given to those that are killed in <DIV></DIV>>other parts of the world. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Clearly, we now hit upon the question of nationalism, and I am not quite <DIV></DIV>>sure what critical realism has to contribute the study of nationalism, but <DIV></DIV>>I am <DIV></DIV>>interested in hearing responses. I think that CR theorists <DIV></DIV>>can develop Zizek's analysis of the ideological construction of the <DIV></DIV>>terrorists as pure evil, cowards who are not afraid to die, primitive and <DIV></DIV>>extremely deceptive. I think a CR approach to this event would be to link <DIV></DIV>> symbolic production to the material relations that sustain it. The <DIV></DIV>>terrorists ruptured a symbol of capitalism, and as the plight of the <DIV></DIV>>airline companies shows, their actions will have serious economic <DIV></DIV>>repercussions. <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Viren <DIV></DIV>>On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Erik Weissengruber wrote: <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > >The reaction to the terror action against USA has been totally out of <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > >proportion. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > I think the murder of thousands of innocent people justifies the reaction <DIV></DIV>> > we have seen so far <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > The media hardly report on anything else and there are mourning <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > >ceremonies all over Europe and no doubt elsewhere. I have never seen <DIV></DIV>> > such <DIV></DIV>> > >strong worldwide emotional reaction to any conflict, war or disaster <DIV></DIV>> > anywhere. <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > >Anti-islamic sentiments are rising and it seems like the clash between <DIV></DIV>> > >christians and muslims is reaching dangerous heights. <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > ________________________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com <DIV></DIV>> > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></html> --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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