File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2001/bhaskar.0109, message 48


Subject: Re: BHA: Re: : Fwd: BBC email + petition if you choose to sign
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:21:19 -0600


Well, what have you done, Mervyn, to determine whether or not the accusation
made in the message forwarded by Bwanika has any basis in fact? Or is that
only necessary when an accusation fails to confirm your prejudices?

Wallace

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mervyn Hartwig" <mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk>
To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: BHA: Re: : Fwd: BBC email + petition if you choose to sign


> Why should we take McCullagh's word for it given that he condones the
> use of fake (old) footage, i.e. convenient lies, to report 'accurately'
> on current events?
>
> And given that he speaks of threats to the lives of journalists but not
> to the lives of Palestinians? And wildly exaggerates:
>
> >That this tape made it out at all is a
> >miracle.
>
>
> Mervyn Hartwig
>
>
>
> Wallace Polsom <wallace-AT-raggedclaws.com> writes
> >Declan McCullagh's Politech
> >
> >Debunking a hoax: CNN video did show Palestinians cheering attacks
> >
>
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> >----
> >
> >Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:40:37 -0400
> >To: politech-AT-politechbot.com
> >Subject: FC: Debunking a hoax: CNN video did show Palestinians cheering
> >attacks
> >From: Declan McCullagh <declan-AT-well.com>
> >
>
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> >----
> >
> >[I've received probably dozens of forwarded email messages, each
spreading
> >the same urban legend and falsely claiming CNN aired file footage. Time
to
> >kill this lie before it spreads any further. --DBM]
> >
> >---
> >
> >http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/outrage/cnn.htm
> >
> > Claim:   CNN used old footage to fake images of 'Palestinians dancing in
> >the street' after the terrorist attack on the USA.
> >
> >Status:   False.
> >
> > Origins:   Cutting straight to the chase, no, CNN did not air decade-old
> >footage of Palestinians dancing in the streets. Eason Jordan, CNN's Chief
> >News Executive, confirmed that the video used on CNN was in fact shot on
> >Tuesday, 11 September 2001, in East Jerusalem by a Reuters TV crew, not
> >during the Persian Gulf conflict of 1990-91 -- a fact proved by its
> >inclusion of comments from a Palestinian praising Osama Bin Laden, whose
> >name was unlikely to have come up ten years earlier in connection with
the
> >invasion and liberation of Kuwait. As well, the person who made the claim
> >quoted above has since recanted.
> >
> >The footage was real. It's a shame, in fact, that its provenance was
doubted
> >because the lives of journalists who have attempted to capture similar
acts
> >on video have been threatened. That this tape made it out at all is a
> >miracle.
> >
> >Yet even if the footage had been recycled from an earlier time, we have
to
> >ask why there would have been an uproar over it. Credible journalists
were
> >on hand and were observing the celebrations. If they hadn't been able to
> >make video recordings to display as a backdrop to their reports, would
harm
> >have been done if stock footage were run instead, footage that would give
> >the viewing audience a far better idea of the feel of events than a flat
> >voice-only report would have?
> >
> >News shows continually make use of stock film clips when the images
called
> >for by the piece are so mundane it would be foolish to send a news team
to
> >film fresh shots. No one needs to film that particular day's herd of
> >tourists entering the White House when stock footage of other tourists
doing
> >exactly that is sitting in a newsroom's archive and can be run as a
backdrop
> >to a reporter's piece on a Whitehouse-related story. Likewise, stock
footage
> >can be used when actual footage is impossible to come by.
> >
> >The primary issue should not really be whether older video footage was
used
> >to represent a current event, but whether the news of event was reported
> >accurately. That is, was it correct to report that at least some
> >Palestinians were "celebrating" the news that terrorist attacks had been
> >made against the United States of America? Certainly CNN wasn't the only
> >news organization to report that information, as other outlets such as
> >Reuters and the Los Angeles Times carried the same story. Also, other
news
> >outlets such as Fox News and The Jerusalem Post reported that journalists
> >were threatened for capturing images of Palestinian celebrations, making
> >real footage of the event harder to obtain [...]
> >
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list. You
may
> >redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan
> >McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/
> >To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html
> >This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <DBBwanika-AT-netscape.net>
> >To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>; <psn-AT-csf.colorado.edu>
> >Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:53 AM
> >Subject: BHA: : Fwd: BBC email + petition if you choose to sign
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>       From: Internal Communications
> >>       Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:19 PM
> >>       Subject: CNN USING 1991 FOOTAGE
> >>
> >>       This email is being sent to all staff
> >>       -------------------------------------------
> >>    There's an important point in the power of press, specifically the
> >Power
> >>    of CNN.
> >>
> >>    All around the world we are subjected to 3 or 4 huge news
distributors,
> >and
> >>    one of them - as you well know - is CNN.  Very well, I guess all of
you
> >have
> >>    been seeing (just as I've been) images from this company. In
> >Particular, one
> >>    set of images caught my attention: the Palestinians celebrating the
> >bombing,
> >>    out on the streets, eating celebration sweets and making funny faces
> >for the
> >>    camera.
> >>
> >>    Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN 1991!!! Those are images of
> >>    Palestinians celebrating the invasion of Kuwait!
> >>
> >>    It's simply unacceptable that a super-power of communications as CNN
> >uses
> >>    images which do not correspond to the reality in talking about so
> >>    serious of an issue.
> >>
> >>    At the BBC here, we have these footages on videotapes recorded in
1991,
> >>    with the very same images.  But now, think for a moment about the
> >impact of
> >>    such images. Your people are hurt, emotionally fragile, and this
kind
> >of
> >>    broadcast has very high possiblity of causing waves of anger and
rage
> >>    against the Palestinians.
> >>
> >>    It's simply irresponsible to show images such as those.
> >>
> >>    Russell Grossman | Head of Internal Communication | BBC
> >>    Third Floor | London Broadcasting House | LONDON W1A 1AA
> >>    T: 020 7765 3612 | Internal: LBH 53612
> >>
> >>    ***********************
> >>    Please sign The Petition at
http://home.uchicago.edu/~dhpicker/petition
> >>    which appeals to world leaders to be level-headed and, wherever
> >possible,
> >>    peaceful in their response to the recent attack against the United
> >States.
> >>
> >>    PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AS
QUICKLY
> >AS
> >>    POSSIBLE.
> >>
> >>    The signatures logged by the website above will be forwarded to
leaders
> >>    around the world. It is imperative that we act quickly to prevent
> >war!!!
> >>
> >>    Thank you.
> >>
> >>    Nike Glaser Wieninger
> >>    Geylinggasse 12
> >>    A 1130 Wien
> >>    fon +43 1 876 43 36
> >>    fax +43 1 877 91 59
> >> --
> >>
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> >> ____________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bwanika
> >>
> >> url: http://www.uganda.co.ug
> >> e-mail: dbbwanika-AT-netscape.net
> >>
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> Mervyn Hartwig
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> Email: mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk
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