File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2001/bhaskar.0111, message 27


Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:59:13 +0000
Subject: Re: BHA: PON ch. 3 question


Hi Ruth, 

>(1) people have essences  (2) essence is cognitive - i.e., 
>one's essence is defined by a set of beliefs that one holds, viz. the 
>"effective 
>ones" (3) people fall into natural, or natural-esque, kinds, in virtue of their 
>essences, and (4) every individual has a unique essence and constitutes a 
>unique 
>kind.  

(1) should I think read 'persons have essences' - he's talking about the
psychological 'unit', not the whole embodied self. 

(2) ditto, 'such essence is cognitive...'

(3) ditto, 'people constitute a natural kind in virtue of having such
essences'

(4) ditto, 'every person has a unique essence which fixes her in her
particularity as a member of a natural kind'.

Hope this helps. Unfortunately haven't had time to look up the original
again.

Mervyn



Ruth Groff <rgroff-AT-yorku.ca> writes
>Hi all,
>
>I actually have two basic questions about a section in chapter 3 of PON.  I 
>want 
>to make sure that I've understood it before I go on to write about it.  
>
>Chapter 3 is the chapter on the philosophy of psychology.  Near the end of  the 
>section called "Agents, Reasons and Causes II: Naturalism Vindicated" (pps. 
>95-7 
>in the 3rd edition copy), Bhaskar says two things.  I want to make sure that I 
>haven't misread him.  
>
>The first point that I'm interested in is stated explicitly, on p. 96 in my 
>copy.  It goes as follows: "And a person's essence consists just in what she is 
>most fundamentally disposed to do (or become): that set of effective beliefs 
>that determines her psychic (and behavioural) identity, and fixes her in her 
>particularity as a kind."
>
>The second point is less explicitly articulated.  It is spread out over the 
>last 
>three pages of the section.  On p. 95, Bhaskar sets out a typology of beliefs, 
>wants/desires and action:  "belief corresponds to a tendency possessed, a want 
>corresponds to a tendency exercised and an action to its manifestation in some 
>or other physical state of the world, whether or not the want is realized."   
>On 
>p. 97, he doles out credit to various major thinkers for showing, one a-piece, 
>how you get from one or the other of these items to the next.
>
>With respect to the first point, I want to check that I've got the various 
>claims straight: (1) people have essences  (2) essence is cognitive - i.e., 
>one's essence is defined by a set of beliefs that one holds, viz. the 
>"effective 
>ones" (3) people fall into natural, or natural-esque, kinds, in virtue of their 
>essences, and (4) every individual has a unique essence and constitutes a 
>unique 
>kind.  
>
>With respect to the second point, I want to make sure that I am correct in my 
>understanding of the implicit directional ordering.  It seems to me to be 
>beliefs - wants - action.
>
>As I said, these are basic exegetical matters.  But I want to make sure that I 
>haven't misread anything.
>Thanks,
>Ruth 
>
>
>
>     --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---

-- 
Mervyn Hartwig
13 Spenser Road
Herne Hill
London SE24 ONS
United Kingdom
Tel: 020 7 737 2892
Email: mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk


     --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---

   

Driftline Main Page

 

Display software: ArchTracker © Malgosia Askanas, 2000-2005