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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:16:56 -0500
From: dbbwanika-AT-netscape.net
Subject: RE: Re: BHA: FWD: LET US CASTRATE THE PALESTINE



Moodey

Fine- let us agree to disagree. However, I am more than convinced, social science has to go further and make a difference between human nature and being, which are fundamentally two different things; otherwise social sciences will still delve into the unknown. 

>I regard science, including social science, as governed by the value 
>knowledge as a self-justified good.  Technology, on the other hand, is 
>practical, and values knowledge as serving some other end.

Should we argue too, formal education is facing a judgmental value problem? I've always asked, what is so formal, which is informal with experiential knowledge? Notice that formal knowledge detaches experience from human /society values: refer to the emergency of comtemporary societies social ills acceptable as " a self-justified good".

Social sciences in general have failed to bring human nature to terms with what social sciences understand what human being should be. Such temptation to disassociate being and nature from each other is a split, which requires two structures 

(1). Repressive structures, and 
(2). Economic conformity or reducing human to being.

To start with, economic conformity over time has generated a flux of sub-structures, which are quite problematic and in turn requires society total alienation from human nature. FIXing society to social sciences definition of human being. Economic conformity has thus with the help of technological support turned into repressive structures, very loose structures hence making economic conformity a useless tool for society existence and continuity. What else can social do in this situation? 

A crisis is on the horizon.

I therefore feel, economic conformity contains repressive structures than what can be imagine. On a simple time scale such structures are self-suppressive and iterative too – a dead end, which can also be defined as end to means.    

Historically all modern states have to maintain the above two structures to survive. What surprises me is how previous societies, could survive on dismal repression. 


Notice too, before 1948 – Christians, Moslems, Jews, Orthodox have all converged on Jerusalem in prayer. Can you recall any historical social strive since biblical mythologies?  

Shouldn't the Palestinians be castrated - in an effort to fit DEMOGRAPHIC THEORY to prove MEDICINE SCIENCE superiority to reason in order to attain POLITICAL SCIENCE intentions as a MILITARY SCIENCE strategy in form of social sciences definition of eternal security of Darwinian highbred?



Bwanika.

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Richard Moodey <moodey001-AT-mail1.gannon.edu> wrote:

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>At 02:56 AM 01/22/2002 -0500, Bwanika wrote:
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>>Military and execution of war is also a science
>>a crossbreed of social science, technology, etc.
>>The question is what do you do, when science is
>>not the means to an end?
>
>We seem to disagree about the meaning of some of these words.  I regard the 
>military as a governmental institution, like the police.  The military is 
>involved in the execution of war, but members of the military act as agents 
>of the collectivity, under the orders of representatives. If the government 
>itself has become militarized, top military officials are representatives, 
>with powers that enable them to exercise their own discretion in acting in 
>the name of the collectivity.   I say "collectivity," because, as the 
>war-lords of Afghanistan have made clear, wars are not always actions of 
>states.
>
>I regard science, including social science, as governed by the value 
>knowledge as a self-justified good.  Technology, on the other hand, is 
>practical, and values knowledge as serving some other end.
>
>Bwanika, this is not an argument with you, but an indication of how I use 
>these words differently.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dick Moodey
>
>PS
>
>I deplore the castration proposal.
>
>
>
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