File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2002/bhaskar.0201, message 72


Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 04:11:17 -0500
From: dbbwanika-AT-netscape.net
Subject: BHA: Hegel, Bhaskar, Descartes



Phil

Let us take sociology, which I believe is totally a human science. If we assume that other creations like birds, insects, animals of which human beings are part and parcel, are necessary precondition for human existence (notice this is a biology view) not sociological, which by the way sociology in its rational philosophical confines, man (again) is above all other creations.

It is a categorical error in sociology- to presuppose human nature as not being interactional with nature but rather superior and everything is else surrogate to it.

Take a simple view that in this millennium, life will be possible on Mars then Calcutta, Sao Paul, London, Lagos, Los Angels will be decongested, life remodelled along the economist model thus all problems in those location solved thus.

Notice, what Mars scientists talk about, is first the introduction OF SMALL ORGANISMS, (call them minute) in order to make a complex life for human beings possible.  Tradition, in the evolution of human life on earth as per Mars scientist, will presuppose a given tradition in human existence.

The flux of the argument is therefore, that sociology limits itself to human being as a supreme and dominating future (sic) in human existence. Just argue away from this thesis and say for “ I am therefore, I am part ..” 

I would not like people to believe it is talking of going back to caves or forests which have also be destroy over years, but rather that human nature is such that, one has to use body and mind (not platonic duality see below) alike for fulfilment which rational science is struggling to unity in mind. 

Human culture are concepts derived from her own experience with nature.
Medicine, building construction, foods, agricultural practices ---> technology etc. Human cultures are basic moral but in a capitalistic sense devoid of a grasp of nature's preconditions for human existence to be possible.

In this light, when we talk of body, it is not a platonic duality; it implies instead a vector of natural preconditions,(generative mechanisms) which are traditionally human traits. Body need space and human beings need space in order to be creative beings (cultural and tradition including the Gods presence) otherwise they will alienate themselves by collapsing into mind necessities and activities which are different from body necessities. 

The two are united realised as human or social practice.  

Economists have discussed utility and what it means, I don’t know since when and they will continue to do so, for some time to come, without conclusive results. On the one hand, it is not so difficult to map such acts, which make human beings less human particularly in urban regions because of the domination of the reliance on mind particularities! 



Bwanika.


Phil Walden <phil-AT-pwalden.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>  I see you are challenging my previously expressed view that hostile >nature is the cause of man's problems
>(or issues).  So what do you think of the idea that we are alienated from
>our true nature?
>

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