From: "Marshall Feldman" <marsh-AT-URI.EDU>
Subject: BHA: RE: Note re: Howard re: Ronny
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:22:10 -0400


Hi all,

Could someone provide references for Ellis' work? And Caroline Lierse?

Also, I'm looking for a good summary of criticisms of positivism. I'm aware
of many individual ones (by Bhaskar, Hacking, and others) as well as the
classic "anti-positivist" work (Quine, Kuhn, Feyerabend) that attacks
positivist principles. What I'm looking for is more of an overview and
chronology. Does anyone out there know of one?

	Marsh Feldman

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> [mailto:owner-bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu]On Behalf Of Ruth Groff
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> Subject: BHA: Note re: Howard re: Ronny
>
>
> Hi Howard,
>
> I hope that Ronny will say more -- and I hope on-list, because
> I'm interested in the Aristotelian underground too! - but I just
> wanted to chime in for a second.
>
> The Harre and Madden book is not that widely engaged in establishment
> >literature either, is it?
>
> My sense is that it registers on the radar both more and
> differently than Bhaskar's books.
>
>
> But actually, rather than the history of philosophy
> >stuff, I'm more immediately interested in your impression of contemporary
> >philosophers of science in their engagement with causal realism.  Why has
> >so little been made of the issue of ontological stratification?  My guess
> >is because mainstream realisms have emerged from the soil of Quine and
> >Putnam.
>
> Can you say more about how Quine fits here?  I would fit him into
> the narrative very differently.
>
>
> >Another way of asking this is how central has the critique of Hume
> >been to the mainstream evolution of scientific realism?
>
>
> Ellis and Caroline Lierse, at least, do go at Hume directly.  Can
> you say some more about exactly what you see being captured by
> the term "ontological stratification" that you think is not
> captured by those two, anyway?
>
> I think it would be great to do some common reading of some of the
> >references you mention.
>
> I would love to do this.  Absolutely.
>
> Ruth
>
>
>
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