Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:39:00 +0100 Subject: Re: BHA: Mainstream Philosophy of Science Hi Dick >It is one thing to say that there are essences which ultimately account for >all that occurs, quite another to say that every possible essence must >ultimately "appear." Isn't this equvalent to saying that all possible >worlds (universes, pluriverses) will ultimately be actual? I think it would be, but I didn't say it - rather, that whatever appears is caused (by 'essence') (ubiquity determinism). Best, Mervyn Richard Moodey <moodey001-AT-mail1.gannon.edu> writes >Hi Mervyn, > >At 12:14 PM 06/04/2002 +0100, you wrote: >>Hi Howard (and Ronny), >> >> >The answer to the question you ask, how they reject OS, is this: "essence >> >must appear." >> >>Can I chip in and ask why this is held to defeat ontological >>stratification? On Bhaskarian premises there is a sense in which essence >>must appear, because it ultimately accounts for everything and once >>activated necessarily has an effect (i.e. concepts of natural necessity >>and 'ubiquity determinism' are sustained). Cf PE 164: "the generative >>mechanisms of nature ... [are] the true world of [Platonic] forms, which >>account in all their complex, manifold and mediated determinations for >>all the phenomena of what identity theorists are pleased to call the >>sensate ... and non-sensate world." >> >>In an open world of conjunctural determination, this is quite compatible >>with OS. Imo the necessity for essence to appear only defeats OS if you >>assume a constant conjunction between the two, and then you've got some >>kind of closed system. >> >>Mervyn > >It seems useful to me to distinguish between the essence of something >actual and an essence of something that remains potential. When the >probability of an event is 1, the generative mechanisms -- essences -- >producing that event "appear" in the occurrence of the event. Is it >legitimate to ask the question in terms of the probability of events? Do >the generative mechanisms for events with low probabilities also have low >probabilities of appearing? > >It is one thing to say that there are essences which ultimately account for >all that occurs, quite another to say that every possible essence must >ultimately "appear." Isn't this equvalent to saying that all possible >worlds (universes, pluriverses) will ultimately be actual? > >Regards, > >Dick > > > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- -- Mervyn Hartwig Editor, Journal of Critical Realism (incorporating 'Alethia') 13 Spenser Road Herne Hill London SE24 ONS United Kingdom Tel: 020 7 737 2892 Email: <mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk> Subscription forms: http://www.criticalrealism.demon.co.uk/iacr/membership.html There is another world, but it is in this one. Paul Eluard --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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