Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:42:08 +0100
From: Mervyn Hartwig <mh-AT-jaspere.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BHA: follow up


Hi Ruth, Howard,

I haven't seen Howard's post for some reason.

>The question
>is, do I need to describe one more step (i.e., to "transcendental dialectical
>critical realism"), or two (i.e., to "TDCR" followed by "philosophy of
>meta-reality")? 

I'm afraid I think there are two ways of looking at it, each of which is
valid (i.e. result from a valid perspectival switch):

1. 6R and 7A are sub-stadia of 5A, i.e. distinctions within one step.

2. They are two further steps.

>whether Bhaskar's name for his current position is TDCR or whether his name for
>his current position is "the philosophy of meta-reality." 

PMR is his current *focus*, but he still describes his overall position
as CR (in the expanded as distinct from restricted sense of the term,
i.e. as encompassing TDCR and PMR). This gets tricky though, for he
holds that PMR is 'a philosophy of truth rather than reality' and in
that sense goes *beyond* CR as well as *deepening* it.

There are no neat analytical answers on this one - this is a dialectical
system in which there are both real connections and distinctions.

Mervyn



rgroff-AT-yorku.ca writes
>Hi Howard and Mervyn,
>
>Thanks for the quick response.  Mervyn thanks for your notes, too.
>
>One further question: it's still not completely clear to me from what you said
>whether Bhaskar's name for his current position is TDCR or whether his name for
>his current position is "the philosophy of meta-reality."  I'm not trying to
>make any deep points here, just trying to be sure that I am accurate in my
>description of the development of the names.  
>
>The original position was called "transcendental realism"; then we get an
>accompanying "critical naturalism"; these two were amalgamated by others into
>"critical realism"; then we get "dialectical critical realism."  The question
>is, do I need to describe one more step (i.e., to "transcendental dialectical
>critical realism"), or two (i.e., to "TDCR" followed by "philosophy of
>meta-reality")?  It sounds as though it's the latter, but I wanted to double 
>check.
>
>Thanks!
>r.
>
>
>
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