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From: "Jamie Morgan" <jamie-AT-morganj58.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: BHA: Re: some prompted thoughts
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:51:14 +0100


Phil please stop referring to me in your messages - you are using things I
said out of context and in ways which are substantively innaccurate (I said
the refutation of parallelism was an indication that philosophical theories
entailed empirical corrigibility I did not say it was an important or
significant theory).
Jamie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Walden" <phil-AT-pwalden.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:24 AM
Subject: BHA: some prompted thoughts


> Hi Alan, Jamie, Mervyn, Tobin, all,
>
> Jamie you moved from citing "occasionalism" to instead citing
"parallelism"
> as what you perhaps regard (?) as an important organizational principle of
> the universe.  I am assuming that you mean "psychophysical parallelism"?
In
> my view the entry on this in the OXFORD COMPANION TO PHILOSOPHY by
Professor
> Alfred R. Mele of Davidson College (where that?) demolishes parallelism
> unless one is working on Leibnizian theistic assumptions about a
> *pre-established harmony* in the universe.  Am I missing something?
>
> On creation de novo and supposed creation ex nihilo.  If Joseph Dietzgen
is
> right that ideas are a form of matter (and not 'something' immaterial,
which
> would be nothing) then it seems that creation ex nihilo falls because it
> would imply that the organizing principles of the universe are not in any
> necessary connection with our minds.  It seems to me that only a very
> determined theist could reject the logic of this argument and effectively
> hold that *everything we think we know is deistically corrigible and
> changeable*.
>
> Mervyn, I honestly don't want to set anyone up as God.  In my mind, RB is
a
> colossal intellect, and I sort of think that throwing out an intellectual
> challenge to him is unlikely to produce malign results.  And it is present
> to my mind that somebody in the CCR Committee has initiated the plan of a
> CCR Seminar on materialism, and that that someone may well have been Roy
> himself.
>
> Best,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
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