From: "dbwanika" <dbwanika-AT-uganda.co.ug>
Subject: BHA: Philosophy & Social Practise
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:44:57 +0200


Listers!

I have a few comments.

With some practical political experience, I have noticed with dismay 
how extreme rationalisation of human affairs can be extremely fatal. 

Bhaskar has tried all his level best through the ID/TD, the social cube 
and the nexus of antagonistic ideology to eradicate social maliase 
brought about by the TINA formation if what is stated, below were to 
materialise in human societies.

The object subject relationality is an array generating extreme 
rationalism i.e. standardisation. 

Sociologically I have come across the same struggle between “I” being 
and “society” being,a futile struggle I might add- when one does not 
take natural neccessisties (natural kinds- Ellis ) as a third array to 
complement the Bhaskarian model for social transformation where in fact 
that very problem seems to be finally resolved , OR. Realism

Transcendental consciousness and communication:

This one is interesting too to say the least! Husserl's noema.

Can false consciousness be consciousness?  Modern society the so called 
information society so to say is a conscious society. 

Can this be true or false? 

In my view, if one comes to terms with the level of communication our 
society is subjected to, and the resulting effects of such mediation, 
then may be we can locate subject object paradigm. 

I was discussing with a collegue in politics here and wondered why some 
decisions are taken as they are taken- I had no answer to the question 
but to my mind external forces can direct consciousness to false 
reality. 

And that reality can as well be true noematically!

And if the state (civil workers & some politicans ideologically) assume 
they have an answer to ID as well as TD facts that becomes even more 
interesting an obsolutism generating the object subject dimension.

However one factor is very clear that society collapses into 
passiveness. I will not generate empirical data to prove the case, i am 
also trying to see where we move from here.

A collegue once asked; if you have 12 year old who has fallen  
substance abuse and the kid says wants this contrary to your views as a 
parent – what do you do ?  

I certainly had no answer for. Dealing with such issues has exposed me 
to the narrow confines of modern law but explaining what I knew using 
the same law, would even have complicated matters than not saying 
anything at all. Or did I know anything at all?

On the other list- there was a debate on univeristy students and 
faculty protection vis á vis student freedoms – imagine student bulling 
of lectures for all reasons,  their freedoms and rights to objectively 
resist harrasments from their lectrures, a some what interesting field 
of contestation.

But more interesting to me today is how the entire field has emerged as 
developmental pyschology indeed political discourse and also defined in 
monetary  terms adds to the acromonious noema!

welcome to örebro, Sweden.

Bwanika.

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Besides, to be undifferentiated is not to be one; even in Platonic 
dialectics, unity requires divers items of which it is the unity. For 
those who live to see it, the new horror of separation will transfigure 
the old horror of chaos--both are ever-same. The fear of yawning 
meaninglessness makes one forget a fear which once upon a time was no 
less dreadful: that of the vengeful gods of which Epicurean materialism 
and the Christian "fear not" wanted to relieve mankind. The only way to 
accomplish this is through the subject. If it were liquidated rather 
than sublated in a higher form, the effect would be regression--not 
just of consciousness, but a regression to real barbarism. 



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