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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:14:20 +0100
From: "Goatcher, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.goatcher-AT-ntu.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: BHA: moral world



Thanks Jan for your help

your comments have cleared up the moralISED aspect, whcih seems similar to
Colliers idea of a transitve moral realm [in Being & Worth]. This would be
the particular moraities [or amoralities] of current societies, but what
of the intransitive morality? are we not also born into or with such a
foundation?

Cheers
Jeff

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Jan Straathof [mailto:janstr-AT-chan.nl]
	Sent: Wed 02/07/2003 00:29
	To: bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
	Cc:
	Subject: Re: BHA: moral world



	On 1 Jul 2003 19:40:18 <jeffrey.goatcher-AT-ntu.ac.uk> wrote:

	>Listers  - a Lurker form the shadows [any old punks out there?] is confused
	>by DPF. Can anyone help me understnad how the world might be always
	>and already moralised or a-moralised?

	Hi Jeff,

	just some quick thoughts:

	I think what Bhaskar is trying to say is that, when we are born, we're always
	born in a world/society/family that is already moralised (or a-moralised);
	i.e.
	all those habits, codes, languages, practices etc. that pre-exist (and cf.
	TMSA
	co-create and co-change with [DPF:155]) a newborn human agent.

	Imagine e.g. a baby born, right now, somewhere in the suburbs of Baghdad
	or in a rural Swedish village. Besides geographics these are quite different
	moral contexts too i would say: nobody is born in an ethically neutral (non-
	moralised) world.

	What must the world be like for birth to be possible ?

	How must the world look like for babies yet to be born ?

	yours,
	Jan




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