Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:56:08 -0400
From: Richard Moodey <moodey001-AT-mail1.gannon.edu>
Subject: Re: BHA: The Fate: Social Science & Itching , Pain & Pleasure


Hi Bwanika,

I'm going to try again.  It seems to me that your claim that the social 
sciences have failed smuggles in the positivist assumption that the 
objective of science is "prediction and control."  From a realist position, 
however, the ability to predict and control is not the criterion for 
judging the validity of an explanation.  So the fact that social scientists 
are unable either to predict or prevent a gang rape, or an epidemic of gang 
rapes, is not a fatal criticism of our understanding of gang rape.

Best regards,

Dick

At 05:55 PM 07/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Listers
>
>The article below might not be of interest to you but it has deeper
>implications not only for the failure of the entire body of social
>sciences and modern societys' attempt to create an "ideal type" in a
>Weberian spirit.
>
>We have understood - what have we understood if i may ask? Nothing I
>might add.
>
>There is more to this - the exposure of Jurgen Habermas' theoretical
>(communication action) rigour to which in this juncture, falls flat  on
>its faces. He was right though on
>that dark distance  the system world creates between wo(men) and their
>societies.
>
>I've been quite amazed how Durkheim was so right - by his  sociality as
>subjective  entity in a dualpolarity.
>
>Just imagine that the entire media and communication branch and indeed
>education is a form of development psychology- a progressive sociology.
>
>how then do we explain the fact that wo(men) can be fallible and INDEED
>protected by the law which must be there to stand in to right such
>structural sins were men falls?
>
>Further more, here comes a problem between itching and pain which is
>still unresolved.
>
>Let us assume that a gang of men - capture or ambush a woman for lack of
>better words by a village path, who by virtual of the act  becomes dead
>stiff in panic, distress,  fear and agony. Muscles can be relaxed of
>course!
>
>But a gang of men - itching despite the struggles feels they can attain
>optimal (pleasure ) pressure from a brutal scratch.
>
>This has got neurological implications to it which I can't explain if
>pleasure and pain are the same thing and as such can be attained in the
>same way physiologically.
>
>And  on the on set le me argue the criminologist to examine their trade,
>since this is the age of precision science!
>
>Now enter economics: it will be easy if good looks biologically cannot
>entice an opposite: (I read that in Hegel) to render a smooth scratch to
>soothe an itch to attain pleasure.
>
>although that might be illegal by today's standards - I can't understand
>how a pound coin can make no economic sense in reference to the article
>or will create such terrible economic misery that men turn to beastly
>behaviour.
>
>Else-where medical doctors (MD) and others in their proximate profession
>here, have concluded that the modern schools might be generating crime.
>I will give the reference if you want but the article is written in my
>language Swedish in our paper DN DagensNyhetter (Daily News).
>
>If any one can help me with answers, i will be satisfied with my
>itching.
>
>bwanika
>
>
>-------------X---------------X.---------
>
>  "I was totally amazed and shocked when I first heard about it, and
>  that amazement hasn't reduced, but I am now absolutely convinced it is
>  true." pleasure
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/03/international/africa/03KENY.html
>
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