Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 05:25:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: BHA: Re: Re: Re: FWD: Job Opportunity: Agent-Publicist-Fundraiser and Business Manager for Philosopher and Spiritual Teacher Ram Roy Bhaskar


I completely agree with Daniel's sentiments (and
suspicions?)


--- Daniel Pineu <danielfrp-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry Jamie (and listers). There's absolutely
> nothing wrong with love, peace and harmony. I had
> just
> genuinely never realized that at the heart of the
> critical realist programme, at least in Bhaskar's
> contemporary position, was the teaching of spiritual
> awareness, enlightenment, etc - in fact, if
> anything, I thought it was a profoundly materialist
> stance within the social sciences. Nor was i
> ever aware of a normative dimension to it.
> 
> And yes, you're quite right, I disliked the language
> and the theocratic overtone (very nicely put).
> It striked me as something halfway between a nascent
> cult of personality, and the wishy-washy
> discourses of Hollywood star-gurus of the day. (I am
> sure Roy is charismatic enough not to need his
> charisma to be pointed out). And I guess you and I,
> and most of the listers, would agree that Roy's
> work is at a much higher level than that, and the
> critical realist project within (social) science
> deserves a much better image for itself than that.
> 
> So, forgive me for the sarcasm's form, if it
> conveyed the wrong image, but I stand by the core
> critique which motivated it.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Morgan" <jamie-AT-morganj58.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:13 PM
> Subject: BHA: Re: Re: FWD: Job Opportunity:
> Agent-Publicist-Fundraiser and Business Manager for
> Philosopher and Spiritual Teacher Ram Roy Bhaskar
> 
> 
> > You maynotlike the language and the thecratic
> overtones but what is wrong
> > with love peace and harmony, would you prefer hate
> war and dischord?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Pineu" <danielfrp-AT-hotmail.com>
> > To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:44 PM
> > Subject: BHA: Re: FWD: Job Opportunity:
> Agent-Publicist-Fundraiser and
> > Business Manager for Philosopher and Spiritual
> Teacher Ram Roy Bhaskar
> >
> >
> > > *gulp*
> > >
> > > Wow, and i thought what we were doing was
> philosophy of (social) science,
> > and that that was Bhaskar
> > > was all about...  When in fact, we should
> apparently be spreading peace,
> > love and harmony, and heal
> > > the world through enlightenment. Whew, I'm glad
> i got the heads up, I only
> > hope i can see the light
> > > too. Hail to the great mentor, live long and
> prosperous,
> > >
> > > Daniel ;-)
> 
> 
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