File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2003/bhaskar.0311, message 125


Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:23:17 -0600
From: Carrol Cox <cbcox-AT-ilstu.edu>
Subject: Re: BHA: Re: Marathon, Thermopylae, Salamis, Re Flourishing, Aristotle 




Howard Engelskirchen wrote:
> 
> I'm not getting this thread about healthy war.

The battles I referred to were of course forced on the Greeks, thus
forming one of the very few legitimate wars in history. Their relevance
to war as the health of the state may be dubious, however, because
Athens at least was not fully a state, nor even Sparta (however nasty in
many ways) if one defines "The State" as standing in some way separate
from the society and monopolizing powers of coercion.

Perhaps "The State" which finds its health in war was the State which
Marx believed would disappear in a socialist order.

Carrol



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