File spoon-archives/bhaskar.archive/bhaskar_2003/bhaskar.0312, message 22


Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:13:43 +0000
From: Mervyn Hartwig <mh-AT-jaspere7.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: BHA: RE: capitalist social structures are false, Ruth


Hi Ruth, Phil

I do hope you're right, Ruth. What a wonderful world it would be if 
there were no real false beings, if falsity pertained only to 
propositions and not to the body language of Bush and Blair, advertising 
images and packaging, the wage-form, commodity fetishism, soap, 
virtuality, the moronic inferno, the demi-real in general...

Mervyn

"Groff, Ruth" <ruth.groff-AT-marquette.edu> writes
>Hi Phil,
>
>I don't see how you can say that capitalist social relations are false 
>without saying that capitalist social relations, at any rate (if not 
>others) are truth-bearers.  Maybe it's just the term.  A truth-bearer 
>is something that can be said to be true or false.  My view is that 
>technically speaking it's propositions that can be said to be true or 
>false, not social structures -- not even capitalist ones.  (Even 
>holding this reactionary, no doubt anti-dialectical view, I suspect 
>that the anglo-analytic American philosophical community would be 
>horrified to think of me as a representative!)
>
>r.
>
>



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