Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:59:11 -0800 From: David Harvey <dharvey-AT-unr.nevada.edu> Subject: Re: BHA: concrete utopia is materially located Nice point Phil. Harvey Phil Walden wrote: > Hi Mervyn, > > > > I would criticize the definition of concrete utopianism you are offering > on the grounds that it does not make it clear that concrete utopia is > materially located. When Ernst Bloch introduced the concept of concrete > utopia into human discourse he did so in relation to an extensive > reading of the work of Hegel and Marx. Bloch protested against the view > that human desires, aspirations, and emotions are irrelevant to Marxist > method. For Bloch we always start with fantasy (about the future) - but > the point is that he is saying that *fantasy is located within class > relations* and is therefore materially located. It cannot therefore be > non-material. > > > > Or at a deeper philosophical level, Bloch's concrete utopia is located > within a Hegelian paradigm according to which substance not only sets > limits on where subject can go, but substance also at certain levels > shows subject where to go. So it is not just that concrete utopia is > naturalistically grounded in a Kantian sense - as you correctly point > out - but it is also grounded in a Hegelian sense in terms of objective > idealism's grasp of the movement of history (in this sense Hegel was a > dialectical materialist avant la lettre). > > > > What would be a shame is if the dictionary follows the currently > conventional wisdom within academia - which is to gut Hegel of his > revolutionary content (or not even mention him) and substitute a > non-materialist and inoffensive naturalist Kantian position - and > thereby commits a serious crime against humanity in the name of > maintaining "academic respectability". > > > > Phil Walden > > --- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- > This message may have contained attachments which were removed. > > Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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