From: "John McKirney" <jmllm_144-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: BHA: RE: Concrete utopia Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:33:31 +0000 1) what is an 'intellectual husk'? 2) implicit in my statement was the argument that the omission of anarchist movements in Mervyn's definition of movements that practice concrete utopianism was one (albeit infinitesimally small) factor that could contribute to the retention of domination and hierarachy in the world. 3) if you're only interested in results and things that exist in the present, then you are a positivist. In which case we have to go back to the whole argument of realism vs. postivism (which most people on this list have already decided upon) - positivism considers what exists and what has existed - realism includes what could possibly exist (but hasn't yet been actualised) in its range of legitimate objects of investigation. >From: shiv kumar <iconoclast2050-AT-yahoo.com> >Reply-To: bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU >To: bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU >Subject: Re: BHA: RE: Concrete utopia >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:20:44 -0800 (PST) > > > >John McKirney <jmllm_144-AT-hotmail.com> wrote referring to other listers: >Hi, just one point - > >if your talking about 'a world without domination and hierarchy',...... > > > >This provides us with intellectual husks. It applies to all those who hold >this misplaced view. > >The task of a scientist is to inform 'Why people are the way they are'. It >is of little interest what an 'ideal' /'model' man or society should be. >The point of importance is whether the man on the street agrees with this >caricature of ideal person/society. An additional point of interest is why >there has not been a world without domination and hierarchy. More >importantly, why there CANNOT be a world without such inequalities. My >focus is on results, in demonstrability, in translatability and not >text-book pictures. > >WHAT are those mechanisms which prevent complete equality? Are they >inaccessible to humans? > >Shiv > > >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > >--- StripMime Warning -- MIME attachments removed --- >This message may have contained attachments which were removed. > >Sorry, we do not allow attachments on this list. > >--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html >--- > > > --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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