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From: "Neil Hockey" <limhockey-AT-onthenet.com.au>
Subject: Re: BHA: God
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 20:15:21 +1000


Hi Jamie and all

> what are good arguments for God(s)?

I've been following this discussion and am interested to track down two (or
more) items:
1. Where can I access a copy of CAP referred to early in the piece?
2. Mervyn mentioned RB's reference to 'God' in one book, I presume this
refers to "From Science to Emancipation" - especially the interlude on
"Critical Realism, Transcendence and God". Could you (or anyone else)
indicate where this particular text (or the debate which constitutes the
interlude) has been engaged with critically, especially resulting in a
printed paper?

My current field of work and research relates to First Nations/Aboriginal
metaphysical realism and social/political philosophy in sustaining
self-emancipatory movements within Aboriginal communities. But I'm keen to
read critiques of RB, or any other arguments for (or agin) God from any
source!

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "jamie morgan" <zen34405-AT-zen.co.uk>
To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: BHA: God


> for the theist it is about the existence of God, for the rest of us its
> about whether they are right or at least whetehr it is reasonable to hold
a
> theistic position at any given time on the basis of argument
>
> what are good arguments for God(s)?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox-AT-ilstu.edu>
> To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: BHA: God
>
>
> >
> >
> > "Moodey, Richard W" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Carrol,
> > >
> > > It seems to me that atheism consists of a cluster of different
> > > traditions, probably fewer than the many theistic traditions we have.
> >
> > Yes. The historical question, then, is why there should be so few
> > _different_ traditions in the cluster of atheism than in the cluster of
> > theism. I'm tempted to cite Tolstoi on happy and unhappy families.
> > Theism(s) is (are) a response to an unhappiness incapable of taking the
> > world as it is, a terrain of struggle, and determined to ascribe to that
> > world the kind of purpose reflected in conscious human activity. (Marx's
> > bee & architect, etc.) And since that simply jars so much with human
> > experience, there is no end to the variety of routes to it.
> >
> > For the theist, the world is an Act, rather than a scene or terrain of
> > action. And ways of describing that act vary endlessly.
> >
> > Carrol
> >
> >
> >
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