Subject: BHA: RE: Re: ontology of war Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:38:21 +1200 From: "Radha D'Souza" <rdsouza-AT-waikato.ac.nz> Jamie: Thanks for your comments. Yes, I agree with you re the line of their argument - however, they do argue that as a result of the intertwined bioproduction etc - war today has acquired an ontological status. That's what I wondered about. I don't have the book with me at the moment for the page numbers, but it is repeated in several places in the first section on War. Marx in Grundrisse describes typologies of societies based on land relations - the Asiatic/Roman/Germanic - and speaks of the 'war-like organisation' of society under Romanic form which was essential for production and extended reproduction of society - which later on becomes an integral feature of society under Euro-American capitalism. If it goes back as far as that then it may not something new to globalisation and the new mode of production (which is another debate altogether). But it makes the question of ontology of war even more important. Radha -----Original Message----- From: owner-bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU [mailto:owner-bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU] On Behalf Of jamie morgan Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2004 9:10 p.m. To: bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU Subject: BHA: Re: RE: IACR Conference 2004 I interviewed Hardt recently and strictly speaking the argument is that politics and war have become mroe intertwined such that a bioproduction of war has become internal to all social life and that simultaneously mdoern warfare strategy has tarnsformed to soemthing like the network used as the bassis for their argument for a new mode of production (informationalization). In many respects I thought this was a much better book than Empire. Jamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radha D'Souza" <rdsouza-AT-waikato.ac.nz> To: <bhaskar-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:33 AM Subject: BHA: RE: IACR Conference 2004 Hello all, In Hardt & Negri's new book *Multitude* they speak of an "ontology of war"; the argument being war is no longer contingent on other factors e.g. politics etc but has acquired an ontological status. I wondered if people on this list have a view on this, and the ontology of war generally. Radha --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list bhaskar-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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