Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 04:55:39 -0500 From: owner-bourdieu Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA109446 for <bourdieu-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 04:27:20 -0500 Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <04820-0-AT-pat.uio.no>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:27:01 +0100 Received: from pcsum86 by rosa.uio.no ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:26:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199603050926.KAA09644-AT-rosa.uio.no> X-Sender: jhv-AT-rosa.uio.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 10:34:15 +0100 To: bourdieu-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU From: j.h.helle-valle-AT-sum.uio.no (Jo Helle-Valle) Subject: Re: re: 'French', or 'Precision and accessability' Sender: owner-bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Maude Frances writes: "... When a piece of writing is complex and 'difficult' it is easy to 'blame the text' ... but in the present case. I would suggest that a more systematic approach to reading Bourdieu might be a better response. Of course those without the 'jargon' or a basic understanding of Bourdieu's terminology will find a lot of his writing baffling and possibly even ambiguous, but this is hardly grounds for suggesting that B simplify his presentation. ..." Let me provide one example of what I take to be an unnecessary complication. Note that what I cite is one (1) sentence!: The conjuncture capable of transforming practices objectively co-ordinated because subordinated to partially or wholly identical objective necessities, into collective action (e.g. revolutionary action) is constituted in the dialectical relationship between, on the one hand, a habitus, understook as a system of lasting, transposable dispostition which, integrating past experiences, functions at every moment as a matrix of perception, appreciations, and actions and makes possible the achievement of infinitely diversified tasks, thanks to analogical transfers of schemes permitting the solution of similarly shaped problems, and thanks to the unceasing corrections of the results obtained, dialectically produced by those results, and on the other hand, an objective event which exerts its action of conditional stimulation calling for or demanding a determinate response, only on thse who are disposed to constitute it as such because they are endowed with a determinate type of disposition (which are amenable to reduplication and reinforcement by the 'awakening of class consciousness', that is, by the direct or indirect possession of a discourse capable of securing symbolic mastery of the practically mastered principles of class habitus). [from Outline of a theory of practice, Cambridge: CUP, pp. 82.3] Peuwh.... That was one sentence - I hope I got it right.. (It kind of reminds me of some of the passages of Hegel's Phenomenologie des Geistes.) Shall I take the next one? No, I guess it is enough - besides, I have my own words to write. To me this is unnecessary complication and vagueness. No one is going to tell me that this amounts to analytical precision or that it could not have been made more accessible and, simultaneously, more precise. Moreover, in danger of exposing myself as a very shallow and one-dimensional person, I still hold that many of the points made by Bourdieu are - after stripping them of all the classy words - extremely simple and have been made by Marx long ago. This is not to say, however, that I do not cherish Bourdieu's works - he has obviously made some great contributions. I only think that much of it could have been presented much better and I sometimes suspect that there is a desire to make it look more intellectual than is necessary. It might be appropriate to cite Wittgenstein: On the one hand, "The fellow isn't insane. We are only doing philosophy." (On certainty, #467.) On the other hand, =AB... in the end when one is doing philosophy one gets to the point where one would just like to emit an inarticulate sound=BB (Philosophical Investigations =A7261). Jo Helle-Valle University of Oslo ********************************************************************** Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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