Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:12:25 +0000 From: R.J.R.Cook-AT-reading.ac.uk (Roger Cook) Subject: Re: Masculine Domination As a gay Bourdieusian I was tantalized by Nicholas Auray's summary of Le Domination Masculine and Bourdieu's praise for the work that the lesbian and gay movement in France has done for the health politics of the stigmatized and dominated. Especially as I have been inclined to think that Bourdieu has not dealt specifically with the domination of women and sexual minorities because of the sometimes excessively polarized, polemical and unhelpful finger pointing that occaisionally dominates these debates. As far as I understand it from reading Beate Krais 'Gender and Symbolic Violence: Female Oppression in the Light of Pierre Bourdieu's Theory of Social Practice' in the volume of critical perspectives edited by Craig Calhoun, this kind of historiographical analysis is exactly what is needed, so that we can understand the deep rooted historical origins of misogny and homophobia and thereby gradually, rationally, and maybe finally, uproot them. I have recently found the work of the anthropologist Gilbert H. Herdt on 'homosexuality' (a term he shows to be embarrasingly inadequate when dealing with the complexity of same-sex relations in Melanesia) to point in very much in this same direction. Bearing in mind the essential collective solidarity of all dominated persons, I eagerly await the translation of Pierre Bourdieu's book. Like Deborah I am grateful to Nicholas for his post. Roger Cook The University of Reading UK >Of course, the book has already been published in French. It contains a more >sophisticated analysis of the kabylian society, compared to the one of the >article you mentionned. It ends up with a more politically oriented >post-scriptum about the gays and lesbians social movement, which has gained >a moral influence in France during the last three years, and contributed to >the public debates about the health politics in France, the stigmatisation >of dominated people. Very interesting in this text is the bourdieusian >proposition that the gay and lesbian movement should constitute an >"avant-garde" of the struggle of all the dominated people, because it >contains in a highly improbable way the contradictory tendancies of a high >cultural capital and a stigmatised status. > >Best wishes >Nicolas Auray. Paris > >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Deborah Kilgore <kilgore-AT-unix.tamu.edu> >=C0 : Bourdieu list <bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> >Date : samedi 16 janvier 1999 18:05 >Objet : Masculine Domination > > >>I had read somewhere, maybe on this list??? that a book in English >>expanding on Bourdieu's article, _Masculine Domination_ was forthcoming, >>but I wonder when that would be or if it has happened yet. Thanks in >>advance... >> >> >>*********************** >>Deborah Kilgore >> >>Fue tan bello vivir cuando vivias! >>How lovely it was to live while you lived! >>- Pablo Neruda, from "Final" >>********************************************************************** >>Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >>Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >>Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >> > >********************************************************************** >Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ********************************************************************** Contributions: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Commands: majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Requests: bourdieu-approval-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
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