From: "kent strock" <sigmund5-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Theatre
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:50:04 PST


I think you are confusing two things and avoiding answering the basic 
question of how a prof. is a prof is a prof.  Of course we could say the 
same logic is operating, but this ignores the empirical differences and its 
effects, which you want to ignore


>From: "Michael G. Smylie" <mgsmylie-AT-netdotcom.com>
>Reply-To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: Theatre
>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:24:02 -0500
>
>Yes, but the pedagogic authority with its attendant symbolic violence IS
>consistent across borders.  What dominant cultural arbitrary are we 
>attempting
>to impose HERE?
>
>I would again appeal to our sense of decorum and suggest that the 
>argumentum ad
>hominem has no proper place here, unless we want to run visitors off the 
>list.
>
>mgsmylie
>
>
>kent strock wrote:
>
> > how can a prof. in Berlin be a prof. in scranton PA?  what produced 
>them?
> > what field, national,economic, ideological do they develop and operate 
>in? I
> > really hate to assume a position of authority, but have you ever read
> > Bourdieu? He has addressed this point directly in several essays and it
> > permeates his entire work.   sorry for the short fragementary 
>posts...just
> > traces of production
> >
> > >From: AHAGGERT-AT-aol.com
> > >Reply-To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > >To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > >Subject: Re: Theatre
> > >Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:29:58 EST
> > >
> > >In a message dated 11/10/99 10:55:33 PM EST, sigmund5-AT-hotmail.com 
>writes:
> > >
> > ><< How can it be stable across national boundaries?  Are not the 
>conditions
> > >of
> > >  production of habuitus and the relations of the field from country to
> > >  country rather different that despite the expansion of capital that 
>the
> > >  reading of texts and schemes of perception used to read them would 
>vary?
> > > >>
> > >
> > >Kent:
> > >
> > >All I was saying was that a student is a student and a professor is a
> > >professor in Berlin as in Scranton, PA. Are you suggesting that the 
>history
> > >of a specific social formation like "higher education" should privilege
> > >national boundaries at the expense of everything else? Or that, if 
>we're
> > >quoting Scripture to serve our purposes, I shouldn't demand that the
> > >preface
> > >to the English edition of Distinction should be made a prequisite (3 
>credit
> > >maximum) to all our discussions? Anyway, you ignored my central point,
> > >which
> > >is that we are reproducing social distinctions according to the laws of
> > >email
> > >as well as being intellectually provocative.
> > >
> > ><<Euoropeans are MUCH better at giving subtle, non-oppositional or
> > >thoughtless reproduction of Bourdieu's work>>
> > >
> > >You're also something of a snob. Unless you're being wittily ironical, 
>in
> > >which case I salute your truly nuanced reflexive sociological 
>Eurosnobbery,
> > >according to which common courtesy can be dispensed with as a silly
> > >affectation.
> > >
> > >A chara,
> > >Andrew Haggerty
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