From: "kent strock" <sigmund5-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Theatre
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:54:14 PST


are suggesting that competition, conflict, power etc can be somehow erased?  
There are political stakes in this discussion of how to use Bourdieu, which 
means positing values, adopting strategies etc. this is not nor does their 
exist a nice little transparent place where everyone gets along and should 
be "nice" to one another...and theoretical reason will solve the problems 
and conflicts.  This is what B's political practice argues against.


>From: "Michael G. Smylie" <mgsmylie-AT-netdotcom.com>
>Reply-To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: Theatre
>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:24:02 -0500
>
>Yes, but the pedagogic authority with its attendant symbolic violence IS
>consistent across borders.  What dominant cultural arbitrary are we 
>attempting
>to impose HERE?
>
>I would again appeal to our sense of decorum and suggest that the 
>argumentum ad
>hominem has no proper place here, unless we want to run visitors off the 
>list.
>
>mgsmylie
>
>
>kent strock wrote:
>
> > how can a prof. in Berlin be a prof. in scranton PA?  what produced 
>them?
> > what field, national,economic, ideological do they develop and operate 
>in? I
> > really hate to assume a position of authority, but have you ever read
> > Bourdieu? He has addressed this point directly in several essays and it
> > permeates his entire work.   sorry for the short fragementary 
>posts...just
> > traces of production
> >
> > >From: AHAGGERT-AT-aol.com
> > >Reply-To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > >To: bourdieu-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> > >Subject: Re: Theatre
> > >Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:29:58 EST
> > >
> > >In a message dated 11/10/99 10:55:33 PM EST, sigmund5-AT-hotmail.com 
>writes:
> > >
> > ><< How can it be stable across national boundaries?  Are not the 
>conditions
> > >of
> > >  production of habuitus and the relations of the field from country to
> > >  country rather different that despite the expansion of capital that 
>the
> > >  reading of texts and schemes of perception used to read them would 
>vary?
> > > >>
> > >
> > >Kent:
> > >
> > >All I was saying was that a student is a student and a professor is a
> > >professor in Berlin as in Scranton, PA. Are you suggesting that the 
>history
> > >of a specific social formation like "higher education" should privilege
> > >national boundaries at the expense of everything else? Or that, if 
>we're
> > >quoting Scripture to serve our purposes, I shouldn't demand that the
> > >preface
> > >to the English edition of Distinction should be made a prequisite (3 
>credit
> > >maximum) to all our discussions? Anyway, you ignored my central point,
> > >which
> > >is that we are reproducing social distinctions according to the laws of
> > >email
> > >as well as being intellectually provocative.
> > >
> > ><<Euoropeans are MUCH better at giving subtle, non-oppositional or
> > >thoughtless reproduction of Bourdieu's work>>
> > >
> > >You're also something of a snob. Unless you're being wittily ironical, 
>in
> > >which case I salute your truly nuanced reflexive sociological 
>Eurosnobbery,
> > >according to which common courtesy can be dispensed with as a silly
> > >affectation.
> > >
> > >A chara,
> > >Andrew Haggerty
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